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Selexin
(@selexin)
Prominent Member

Here is a good reddit thread for druid macros!
I'm using the same author's warrior macros. They are quite complicated though, and you'll need a (new) muscle memory to pull some of them off.

https://www.reddit.com/r/classicwow/comments/c6mt68/followup_to_10_button_or_less_a_casestudy_with_my/

Yeh I have seen these style of modifier keys to provide lots of options. I already use 1, alt+1, shift+1 and if necessary can do ctrl+1. Instead of putting it in 1 macro, i use bars to show the abilities individually and keybind them separately to have a visual reference to what is off-cooldown, mana available etc.

My macros/mousover macros etc. are currently being learned/expanded on my druid and shaman. I didn't rely on them in vanilla, but want to utilise some of them now, they are good but I am still learning all the syntax/rules/restrictions on macros.

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Posted : 09/09/2019 10:38 pm
(@black-monarch)
Reputable Member

Right-clicking on the target might work in an environment with very little clutter, but it's unsuitable for chaotic situations. When I don't even know where my mouse cursor is on the screen, it'll take me a second or two of waving the mouse around to find it, and then more time to mouse over the correct enemy and click... or I could just press 1 and fix the problem instantly.
To be clear, there is nothing wrong with being new and not knowing things about the game. But if you want to present like an informed player and try and post about your big ideas for Classic, you need to be informed. If you arent informed, stop making posts and go play the game... Go learn. Then come back when you have an informed opinion and make posts about your big ideas.

WHAT BIG IDEAS? Name one "big idea" that I've had for classic. Just fucking ONE. You can't, because I haven't had any.
Do you keyboard turn and backpedal as well?

No.
Your posts here have constantly been misinforned

That's super ironic considering that you started your post with a false assumption. Piss off and keep your lies to yourself.
show a general lack of understanding about what classic wow was and is.

Wrong again. Are you trying to set some kind of forum record for most times being wrong in a single post? Name one time when I said something about Classic WoW that turned out to not be true. I'll sit here and wait.

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Topic starter Posted : 10/09/2019 12:28 am
(@fthforever)
Estimable Member

#showtooltip Disarm
/startattack
/cast [nostance] Defensive Stance
/cast Disarm

Is there any reason why "[nostance]" is added?
I understand what it does, I just can't see any reason why to include it.

Stances are off the Global Cooldown, so if you just have
/cast Defensive Stance
/cast Disarm

it's instant.

If you are already in Defensive Stance, it will not try to cast it again.
If you are in stance 1 or 3, it will cast it and instantly cast Disarm.

So to me the "[nostance]" seems redundant. Or maybe I'm missing something?

Well, this could be indeed redundant in this case.

Speaking of macros, I wrote a one button Overpower / Revenge macro but I would like to show it the current available abilities tooltip.

I tried

#showtooltip [stance] Overpower, [stance] Revenge
/startatttack
/cast [stance] Overpower
/cast [stance] Revenge
/cast [stance] Battle Stance

But it only shows the tooltip for one ability, even if in the correct stance. Any ideas?

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Posted : 10/09/2019 12:36 am
(@pippina)
Noble Member Moderator

Yeh i'll do some testing tonight I think. I want to replace my form keybinds to be form macro keybinds so i can instant switch between forms, but also use the same button to exit the form if im already in it. I don't want to have to cast a spell to break form (like just talking to an NPC I need to exit form and i dont want to cast something to help 'cancelform'. I need a spell that essentially is 'Human Form' that I can cast haha, that will make it easy.

/cast [nostance] Bear Form, Human Form

Which is "If I'm not in bear form, get into it.... Otherwise, human form! Testing required.

Try this:
#showtooltip cat form
/cast [stance] bear form; [stance] aquatic form; [stance] travel form
/cast cat form

I just tested this, and it works.

Break it down:
#showtooltip cat form

Show the tooltip for cat form when you mouseover the macro.

/cast [stance] bear form; [stance] aquatic form; [stance] travel form

Basically if you cast a form you are already in, then it cancels the form. So this line checks for certain forms and cancels the form if you're in one.

- If you're in bear form, cancel bear form by casting bear form
- If you're in aquatic form, cancel aquatic form by casting aquatic form
- If you're in travel form, cancel travel form by casting travel form

/cast cat form

Now that we have checked for other stances, cast cat form.

- If you are in cat form, then it returns you back to Night Elf / Tauren form.
- If you are not in cat form, then you will enter cat form.

End result is it lets you shift directly to cat form from any other stance, and if you're already in cat form, it drops form. If you're not in any form, it gives you cat form.

Just tweak the numbers and spell names to adopt macros for the other stances.

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Posted : 10/09/2019 12:39 am
(@pippina)
Noble Member Moderator

or I could just press 1 and fix the problem instantly.

Replace all attacks with macros that incorporate /startattack and you'll never have to press any other key to enter auto attack ever again.

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Posted : 10/09/2019 12:42 am
(@black-monarch)
Reputable Member

or I could just press 1 and fix the problem instantly.

Replace all attacks with macros that incorporate /startattack and you'll never have to press any other key to enter auto attack ever again.

That would deliver acceptable results.

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Topic starter Posted : 10/09/2019 12:46 am
(@pippina)
Noble Member Moderator

or I could just press 1 and fix the problem instantly.

Replace all attacks with macros that incorporate /startattack and you'll never have to press any other key to enter auto attack ever again.

That would deliver acceptable results.

What circumstance do you want to press heroic strike, not have enough rage, and not start auto attack?

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Posted : 10/09/2019 12:48 am
(@pippina)
Noble Member Moderator

wrote a one button Overpower / Revenge macro but I would like to show it the current available abilities tooltip.

I tried

#showtooltip [stance] Overpower, [stance] Revenge
/startatttack
/cast [stance] Overpower
/cast [stance] Revenge
/cast [stance] Battle Stance

But it only shows the tooltip for one ability, even if in the correct stance. Any ideas?

Try this:

#showtooltip
/startatttack
/cast [stance] Overpower
/cast [stance] Revenge
/cast [stance] Battle Stance

#showtooltip should make it show the tooltip of the first spell it finds. The different stance commands are conditional statements, and it won't display the tooltip for the stance you're not in.

I don't have a warrior right now with those skills, but I did write something similar to test on my druid with stances and it seemed like it worked.

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Posted : 10/09/2019 12:50 am
(@gallow)
Reputable Member

FTHforever the comma after overpower should be a ; afaik.

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Posted : 10/09/2019 3:34 am
Tamul Brokenhoof
(@tamul)
Estimable Member

I just right click on the target, never failed, always worked. Q E R, strafe A/D. Disarm Macro, B Rage Macro.
Best and worst thing about warriors, is that you need a lot of muscle memory. But once you get it, you're a god.
I didn't know anything about /startattack macro, that's a thing to keep in mind now I guess.
If I can give any tip for people in here, use this /script UIErrorsFrame:Hide() to hide the annoying "You're too far away", "Not enough mana" popup on the screen. That's as far as I go on macro knowledge D:

For the longest time I would just force auto-attack with right click every time I needed to. I'd heard about macros forever but never looked into them much. From the beginning of Classic this time around I decided to learn how to use them and man they make a huge fucking difference. You should give it a shot.

Here's an example of a macro I use. Sometimes I want to attack something in bear form, but don't have any rage. I press Maul and nothing happens. I press it again, still no rage, I'm still standing there. I'm sure that as a warrior you know this experience well. I could right click the mob to start attacking it, but I've already lost time and I'm getting behind in threat generation. It's a bad situation all around. So instead of putting maul directly on my action bar, I made a macro that looks like this instead:

#showtooltip maul
/startattack
/cast maul

I put this on my action bar instead of maul. This time if I go up to a mob and press my maul keybind without enough rage, I at least start swinging. I don't have to spend time to realize that I lack rage, I don't spend time realizing that I need to right click to start attacking, I don't lose any time at all. I immediately start attacking. I don't get my maul because I don't have rage, but I don't waste time just standing there either. No matter how good your muscle memory is, these macros save you time and saved time equates to better performance no matter what role you're in.

Note that the /startattack command starts attack. It does not stop attack. This means that pressing it twice in a row does not cancel auto attack. I bring this up because the stock keybind of 'T' for auto attack does switch auto attack on and off and cycles through on/off every time you press. The /startattack command does not behave this way. Every time you press the button for this macro it will ensure that you are auto attacking.

You should consider replacing every attack on your bar with a macro like the one above. Just replace 'Maul' with the name of whatever your attack is. And note that you just type out the name of attacks with multiple words, no use of quotation marks or anything. For example, this is what Heroic Strike would look like for you:

#showtooltip Heroic Strike
/startattack
/cast Heroic Strike

Also note that if you select the "?" macro icon and start the macro with #showtooltip <name of spell>, then the system will automatically replace the ? icon with the correct icon of the spell named in the #showtooltip command. This happens after you drag it to your action bar and close the macro interface. I just learned this trick last night and it's already saved me a lot of time trying to find the right icon manually.

@Black Monarch you should consider this too because it means you get your attack button off your action bar, you get another keybind back, and you don't lose time having to activate this. Just incorporate it into all of your attacks through macros like this.

I'll use this as soon as I get home for sure ! :D

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Posted : 10/09/2019 4:33 am
(@justbe)
Estimable Member

or I could just press 1 and fix the problem instantly.

Let me introduce you to the 'T' button.

Also, I don't care to go through your insane posting history to find all the mistakes you've made.

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Posted : 10/09/2019 5:30 am
(@black-monarch)
Reputable Member

I don't care to go through your insane posting history to find all the mistakes you've made.

In other words, you like to talk a lot of shit but can't back it up with evidence.

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Topic starter Posted : 10/09/2019 2:54 pm
Selexin
(@selexin)
Prominent Member

I just tested this, and it works.

Thanks Pip, I'll give it a shot tonight when I get on.

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Posted : 10/09/2019 3:19 pm
(@zanthir)
Trusted Member

I don't care to go through your insane posting history to find all the mistakes you've made.

In other words, you like to talk a lot of shit but can't back it up with evidence.

Think you did the work for us with the "Modest Proposal" and block anyone who disagrees with me (paraphrasing) threads...

In all honesty, make your posts, but don't get so surprised when you're met with resistance. New ideas aren't necessarily bad, but trying to alter this game that thousands of us have been trying to get back into the "classic" state likely isn't going to be embraced with open arms. Seriously, it's been over a decade that we haven't had access to this game we loved and missed in any official capacity, and within weeks, folks who clearly aren't the target audience are asking that it be substantially changed. This pushback is amplified by some threads like this that show you're not the most experienced player with classic. Nothing wrong with being new, but perhaps you should take classic for what it is, or find an experience that's more in line with what you're looking for.

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Posted : 10/09/2019 3:39 pm
Selexin
(@selexin)
Prominent Member

Try this:
#showtooltip cat form
/cast [stance] bear form; [stance] aquatic form; [stance] travel form
/cast cat form

I just tested this, and it works.

Fuck yeh, works a treat - thanks!

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Posted : 11/09/2019 7:17 pm
 Erik
(@erik)
Reputable Member

I have most my keybinds macroed with startattack, especially for PvP because if someone is lagging or running around you like crazy with either sprint or similar it is hard to right click (Which I usually do when casually leveling because of the predictable movement of the mobs).

So most attacks are macroed, if I maybe want to tag a mob with a melee hit and don't want to waste mana or for what ever reason, I just right click.

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Posted : 11/09/2019 10:20 pm
(@black-monarch)
Reputable Member

Think you did the work for us with the "Modest Proposal"

You mean you're too retarded to notice obvious satire? That's your problem, not mine.

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Topic starter Posted : 12/09/2019 7:46 pm
(@telvaine)
Reputable Member

Think you did the work for us with the "Modest Proposal"

You mean you're too retarded to notice obvious satire? That's your problem, not mine.

It wasn't satire because you had no point. Satire uses exaggeration and mocking to call out people's inadequacies, all you did was name your post after a piece of famous satire and purpose dumb ideas.

If you were say, making fun of people proposing changes by proposing a bunch of stuff that made it obvious that #nochanges was your logical stance, then it would be satire.

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Posted : 12/09/2019 8:13 pm
(@telvaine)
Reputable Member

Think you did the work for us with the "Modest Proposal"

You mean you're too retarded to notice obvious satire? That's your problem, not mine.

It wasn't satire because you had no point. Satire uses exaggeration and mocking to call out people's inadequacies, all you did was name your post after a piece of famous satire and purpose dumb ideas.

If you were say, making fun of people proposing changes by proposing a bunch of stuff that made it obvious that #nochanges was your logical stance, then it would be satire.

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Posted : 12/09/2019 8:13 pm
(@aryvandaar)
Active Member

I have attack on my hotbar cause I like clicking buttons. I don't really care for using macros, but I'm not being an elitist about it like some people in this thread who adores macros.

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Posted : 13/09/2019 1:18 am
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