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What is something class / ability related you always wanted to see in game but was never implemented?

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(@hinien)
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Do you mean three talent trees that are "viable" or 3 specs within a class that are viable?

One spec worth using for each talent tree. Thinking about Balance Druid, I mean you CAN use it and do some damage. But you know you will be underperforming. Same for full survivial Hunter, never saw vivern sting being used. Retribution Paladin, Arcane Mage..

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for crazy unpopular specs, but in Classic the amount of work needed to make them "work" (And i mean work, not "be competitive") is just not worth it IMO.

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Posted : 18/10/2019 12:32 am
(@samaraner)
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Don't get me wrong, I'm all for crazy unpopular specs, but in Classic the amount of work needed to make them "work" (And i mean work, not "be competitive") is just not worth it IMO.

And thats a good thing, in my opinion.

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Posted : 18/10/2019 12:58 am
Caperfin
(@caperfin)
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One spec worth using for each talent tree. Thinking about Balance Druid, I mean you CAN use it and do some damage. But you know you will be underperforming. Same for full survivial Hunter, never saw vivern sting being used. Retribution Paladin, Arcane Mage..

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for crazy unpopular specs, but in Classic the amount of work needed to make them "work" (And i mean work, not "be competitive") is just not worth it IMO.

I know we're still early in the game but something like Ranged Surv Hunter does become very feasible in the late-game. The 31 point talent unlock doesn't invalidate the other 30 other points in that talent tree or the talent tree itself, you would just not take the 31 point unlock. In fact, xx/xx/30 is near or surpasses the Optimal spec.

I understand you willingness to clump up odd specs together. But I've personally played these odd specs for +6 years, I can safely tell you Ret paladins are not on the same level as Arcane Mage.

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Posted : 18/10/2019 3:15 am
(@hinien)
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I know we're still early in the game but something like Ranged Surv Hunter does become very feasible in the late-game. The 31 point talent unlock doesn't invalidate the other 30 other points in that talent tree or the talent tree itself, you would just not take the 31 point unlock. In fact, xx/xx/30 is near or surpasses the Optimal spec.

I know, I know.. what I mean is why did they even bother to put vivern sting there? No way anyone will ever use it. It can only be useful in PvP and if you take it you cannot take scattershot wich is too important. It's a useless talent. There is no way somebody in testing could have said "vivern sting is ok" or "Arcane mages are good as they are".

What bugs me it's that it seems class designers didn't even bothered trying out some specs/talents. I can only try to image how difficult it is to balance 9 differenct classes with all those talents, but there are cases where it's obviuous a talent or a talent spec will never be used.

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Posted : 18/10/2019 3:50 am
Caperfin
(@caperfin)
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I know, I know.. what I mean is why did they even bother to put vivern sting there? No way anyone will ever use it. It can only be useful in PvP and if you take it you cannot take scattershot wich is too important. It's a useless talent. There is no way somebody in testing could have said "vivern sting is ok" or "Arcane mages are good as they are".

What bugs me it's that it seems class designers didn't even bothered trying out some specs/talents. I can only try to image how difficult it is to balance 9 differenct classes with all those talents, but there are cases where it's obviuous a talent or a talent spec will never be used.

ahh ok sure, I understand.

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Posted : 18/10/2019 9:49 am
(@gensei)
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The totem system from later expansions, like Wrath (maybe) and Cata.

I.E. you have the ability to stomp all four types of totems at once, and you can preselect three different configurations. So you don't have to dick around for the first 5 seconds of combat dropping individual totems. It's also just cooler, and you can actually stand in combat surrounded by your totems for at least a few seconds.

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Posted : 18/10/2019 10:12 am
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