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Amen.

Then we are screwed... because all the folk coming from retail wow will be forcing blizzard to modify and expanding classic to the state it becomes retail again! Then we are DOOMED!

Then we are screwed... because all the folk coming from retail wow will be forcing blizzard to modify and expanding classic to the state it becomes retail again! Then we are DOOMED!

Agreed. A lot of folks would argue that retail isnt broken at all. I like that we will have two separate communities with the opportunity from some cross-pollination in between. Should make both games a lot healthier and should help generate some much needed revenue for Blizz.

it would be enough if the next xpack just focus on the rebuilding of Azeroth, no mega villian, no mega arc with horde vs alliance, no flying because we have to heal the nature, rebuild everything that got broken in the cataclysm, Raids could take place in the old raids in Azeroth were we have to clean them from enemys that took over.

I am really sick with the Horde vs Alliance beginning of a xpack (like mop that i really liked) but then going into another the evil Monster is the ultra mega boss.
Just make it like in classic with every zone has a story that is in some case ending in a raid.

It'll be a real big issue in de-escalating everything. So far we've killed the Lich King, one of the five Dragon Aspects, the Sha in Pandaria that even the Pandas couldnt get rid off, leaders of the burning legion, I could go on.

Saying that, in Vanilla you do kill C'thuun. But since the amount of people who managed that was so small initially it seemed more like "Azeroth's Greatest Heroes" accomplished the task, rather than what occurs in retail, where any chump in Cata could stroll into LFR and beat the Dragon that tore the world asunder.

I'm not sure how the retail community would react to a sudden 'reset' back to more humble beginnings, considering for the past 10-ish years they've basically been gods of the warcraft universe.

Fuck it. Who doesnt want a 2nd chance? I say nuke it all on the next maintainence and were all back at 1 with lessons learned and feedback addressed; cultivating in the most dominant version of WoW that the world has ever seen....

World of Warcraft: Regression.

I wouldn't mind it..However, what if they did Classic, then released Burning Crusade and then kept vanilla separate and then did NEW expansions from there on? I think that would be pretty sweet.

I wouldn't mind it..However, what if they did Classic, then released Burning Crusade and then kept vanilla separate and then did NEW expansions from there on? I think that would be pretty sweet.

This is exactly what I am hoping for, do not even mind having to lvl again if they open a fresh TBC server instead of being able to copy character.
My dream would be a server of each expansion, allowing people to play what they want.

I wouldn't mind it..However, what if they did Classic, then released Burning Crusade and then kept vanilla separate and then did NEW expansions from there on? I think that would be pretty sweet.

This is exactly what I am hoping for, do not even mind having to lvl again if they open a fresh TBC server instead of being able to copy character.
My dream would be a server of each expansion, allowing people to play what they want.

I'm afraid it would spread out the population too much though.

I'm afraid it would spread out the population too much though.

Well it depends, if you kept it as a pve + pvp server max per region it should not be too impactful
And yes some servers would probably be almost dead (WoD…)

I'm afraid it would spread out the population too much though.

The population that wants to play Vanilla / TBC / Wrath / whatever is already out of Blizzard's servers so I don't think that'd be that big of a problem.

I'm afraid it would spread out the population too much though.

The population that wants to play Vanilla / TBC / Wrath / whatever is already out of Blizzard's servers so I don't think that'd be that big of a problem.

Yep. I know majority of Wrath players play on a certain private server. I personally never understood why Wrath was/is so popular. although, I never played it lol.

How does rereleasing old expansions not make us end up exactly where we started?

How does rereleasing old expansions not make us end up exactly where we started?

Because Blizzard has already seen what mistakes they made before and can avoid them....

Have you never thought to yourself "if I knew then what i know now..."?

Yep. I know majority of Wrath players play on a certain private server. I personally never understood why Wrath was/is so popular. although, I never played it lol.

For me the game lost its charm when they announced some of the TBC changes, such as dropping raids from 40- to 25-man. I get some of the reasoning behind that, the amount of guild turnover was immense back then and managing to get 40 people focused and working together for 3-4+ hours twice a week (or more) was a big challenge for every guild.

The level cap raise also made me lose interest, can't really explain why though to be honest. It always just felt like level 60 was the perfect number, the journey was so immense that raising it another 10 levels made it lose some of that prestige.

It just didn't feel like the same game to me anymore when TBC rolled around and I know that's a little drastic. But it's how I felt at the time - and future expansions would come to cement that feeling.

I also never really liked the streamlining they did to itemization. I know, in fairness, this started in Naxx and I see it as a big hurdle in avoiding it if Blizzard decide to expand Classic with new content rather than going through the same expansions

I'd rather the story continue and stay put on another titan. We know there are Titans out there, but none newly discovered. Azeroth could wake, say that she is to far gone, but she's been in talks with another Titan in stasis (some kind of dream world).

Azeroth puts her children up for adoption and boom... new mom.]

side side note: Weed gonna be legal in Illinois next year. hype.

I'm not sure how the retail community would react to a sudden 'reset' back to more humble beginnings, considering for the past 10-ish years they've basically been gods of the warcraft universe.

The only time this felt cool to me was in WoD when they referred to you as commander. At that point it made sense to me to start recognizing the player's contributions. Too bad WoD sucked balls though. I really would like to get back to the days of running into other adventurers out in the world though, having a quick chat to make sure neither of us had seen any Alliance, and heading on our ways. Always felt like those little encounters stressed the notion that we're all just wanderers in Azeroth, and to truly be heroic we needed to team up.
side side note: Weed gonna be legal in Illinois next year. hype.

Hello from Oregon buddy ;)

I'd rather the story continue and stay put on another titan. We know there are Titans out there, but none newly discovered. Azeroth could wake, say that she is to far gone, but she's been in talks with another Titan in stasis (some kind of dream world).

Azeroth puts her children up for adoption and boom... new mom.]

side side note: Weed gonna be legal in Illinois next year. hype.

It JUST passed the house. Legalization for us by Jan 1 2020 imo :)

How does rereleasing old expansions not make us end up exactly where we started?

Because Blizzard has already seen what mistakes they made before and can avoid them....

Have you never thought to yourself "if I knew then what i know now..."?

And did you consider the fact that everyone seems to agree that flying was detrimental? My point here is that no single expansion ruined everything. The accumulation of QoL improvements did, so going down the path of expansions you're gonna end up at the same point. Also rereleasing TBC/Wrath won't solve the lack of content for Classic post Naxx, it will only postpone the issue.

Rereleasing the expansions is just pushing an inevitable problem slightly further away while introducing the exact same things players have been crying they want to get rid of (flying added in TBC, LFG added in Wrath) you're gonna end up in the same boat by the end of Wrath.

You don't avoid your past mistakes by doing what you did in the past. Rereleasing expansions doesn't do the Classic any good, and in my eyes, although expansion content can be reused, the only feasible way for the longevity of Classic is a "Classic+" solution.