I don't see how this is even a question. Chinese gold farmers and bots are part of the Authentic Classic Experience(TM).
There are currently no bots running retail from what I understand. Please reference an actual bot before claiming the problem of botting. Can you provide a name or a link?
I think you are conflating no-lifers or straight up gold farmers on retail that flood the market and just "undercut by flooding" and this in turn, makes you think they are bots. People are just able to live nowadays on WoW... its quite possible... if your job was say, night shift at McDs, and you hate working there, so you work to scrap by on food rent and wifi, then fill in the holes with WoW....
I wouldn't want at all to introduce the token in classic. Why? Mainly because I prefer the idea of gold being won within the game and with effort in it.
One of the best things of a role-playing game is to live adventures in another world, with a character that is not you.
As far as economics is concerned, you can be a poor rat in the real world while in the game you're a wealthy blacksmith, or on the other side, you may be a rich businessman in real life, but in Azeroth, you'll have to bend down and pick flowers to earn your bread.
I believe that the economies of the two worlds should be separate. Always.
As for the argument that people who want to buy gold can do so illegally... well at least let's not make it so easy.
As for the argument that people who want to buy gold can do so illegally... well at least let's not make it so easy.
It not easy at all in the present, retail version of the game. Search Warden Blizzard on Wikipedia/Google and you will quickly see that Blizzards cheat detection is off the charts hard to bypass, due to hash checking and pattern matching - to the point where the depth of Warden raises legitimate privacy concerns. People claiming WoW botting is a threat in this thread are widely mis-informed and live in the state of mind set in wow 2 years ago - when botting actually made the Legion economy messed up.
Do anybody knows? Can I use WoW tokens to play WoW Classic that is going live in 2 weeks?
The only way that you can use WoW tokens to play Classic, is if you purchase them using gold in BFA. They add game time to your account overall, which (obviously) includes Classic. Classic itself will not have a store that you can purchase tokens from.
There are currently no bots running retail from what I understand. Please reference an actual bot before claiming the problem of botting. Can you provide a name or a link?
I think you are conflating no-lifers or straight up gold farmers on retail that flood the market and just "undercut by flooding" and this in turn, makes you think they are bots. People are just able to live nowadays on WoW... its quite possible... if your job was say, night shift at McDs, and you hate working there, so you work to scrap by on food rent and wifi, then fill in the holes with WoW....
Referenced on page 1. Take the time to read through the entire thread.
Classic itself will not have a store that you can purchase tokens from.
Yet. We may see that later on though.
I'd rather not have to choose between illegal crack and legal crack, but If I absolutely had to choose I'd prefer the scenario where not peddling crack is someone else's problem and not a self-policing issue.
Also google "bfa cheap gold" and then come back with how the token solved the illicit gold-selling problem.
All it did is grab Bobby Kotick a piece of the pie.
And if they could find a way to monetize boosts for real money it would already be in-game and gameplay concerns and game integrity be damned.
You are exactly the kind of audience that doesn't know what the f they want, enabling the beancounters to destroy a game one step at a time for your personal "convenience" then crying 10 years later "why is retail so shit".
enabling the beancounters to destroy a game one step at a time for your personal "convenience" then crying 10 years later "why is retail so shit".
Modern WoW is shit for reasons that have NOTHING to do with convenience.
Modern WoW is shit for reasons that have NOTHING to do with convenience.
That's not entirely true. LFG/LFR alone can be slotted into the convenience factor. Not having to go to the trainer for spells, also convenience. Automatic flight paths based on level, convenience. They all made the game much smaller, less immersive and less social by making everything instant/teleporty/convenient. That's why we want vanilla back, to get our world back, to get the Role Play back into MMORPG.
This is deviating from the topic though.
LFG/LFR alone can be slotted into the convenience factor. Not having to go to the trainer for spells, also convenience. Automatic flight paths based on level, convenience.
But those aren't why the game sucks now.
Well... having class trainers just standing around, being useless, not actually training anyone, is part of why the game sucks, but it sucks because it makes no sense, not because of convenience. If blizz removed all of the now-useless class trainers, that would be an improvement. Likewise, LFG teleporting you to places you've never been to before and can't find on a map is stupid and makes no sense, but the BC version of the group finder was just fine.
LFG/LFR alone can be slotted into the convenience factor. Not having to go to the trainer for spells, also convenience. Automatic flight paths based on level, convenience.
But those aren't why the game sucks now.
Well... having class trainers just standing around, being useless, not actually training anyone, is part of why the game sucks, but it sucks because it makes no sense, not because of convenience. If blizz removed all of the now-useless class trainers, that would be an improvement. Likewise, LFG teleporting you to places you've never been to before and can't find on a map is stupid and makes no sense, but the BC version of the group finder was just fine.
LFG/LFR Teleporting, done for convenience, has turned the game into an Action MMO Game.
Not having to visit the class trainer, done for convenience, removes immersion/roleplay factors of the game.
Also getting a mount is possible at level 1 now, for convenience, which completely removes immersion/social/roleplay aspects of the game. It also makes the game much much smaller and linear feeling (like the other changes).
The game definitely has some serious amounts of suck due to added conveniences to the game. A large part of what makes Vanilla/Classic enjoyable, are what some people would deem inconvenient. Having to walk until level 40? Having to go to the trainer every 2 levels? Having to travel across continent and contested/enemy territories on foot to reach a dungeon/raid? These would all be deemed incredibly inconvenient in todays' retail WoW, but are endearing and a loved part of the Vanilla WoW experience.
Wouldn't be surprising. I imagine they're going to add some sort of store to the game at one point or another later on, maybe even in just a year.
It's Activision afterall.
LFG/LFR Teleporting, done for convenience, has turned the game into an Action MMO Game.
That claim is idiotic. Teleporting has always existed in WoW (remember mage portals?) and has nothing to do with the genre. RPGs are defined by their functional character-customization options. WoW's functional character-customization options were always weak compared to games like D&D, and the only major loss of such customization in WoW was when skill trees got replaced with Pandaria's skill tiers.
Not having to visit the class trainer, done for convenience, removes immersion/roleplay factors of the game.
LOL no it doesn't. Going to the class trainer every 2 levels isn't role-play. It's a chore, like picking herbs in my garrison every morning. Roleplaying is player-driven. Creating a macro that causes your character to yell "Om nom nom nom!" when you use the Forsake cannibalize ability is roleplaying. Donating gold to level 1 female night elves dancing on mailboxes is roleplaying.
Also getting a mount is possible at level 1 now, for convenience, which completely removes immersion/social/roleplay aspects of the game.
Hahaha no. The mount was a reward for collecting 35 heirlooms. It had nothing to do with convenience, and mounts don't affect immersion or roleplay.
Maybe Classic isn't the game for you Black Monarch? If you are worried about walking to the trainer, or upset you can't get transmog in retail from classic drops, you may have a bad time. Did you play vanilla?
That claim is idiotic.
Imagine being this out of touch...
Did you play vanilla?
I can answer for him. He did not.
LFG/LFR Teleporting, done for convenience, has turned the game into an Action MMO Game.
That claim is idiotic. Teleporting has always existed in WoW (remember mage portals?) and has nothing to do with the genre. RPGs are defined by their functional character-customization options. WoW's functional character-customization options were always weak compared to games like D&D, and the only major loss of such customization in WoW was when skill trees got replaced with Pandaria's skill tiers.
Not having to visit the class trainer, done for convenience, removes immersion/roleplay factors of the game.
LOL no it doesn't. Going to the class trainer every 2 levels isn't role-play. It's a chore, like picking herbs in my garrison every morning. Roleplaying is player-driven. Creating a macro that causes your character to yell "Om nom nom nom!" when you use the Forsake cannibalize ability is roleplaying. Donating gold to level 1 female night elves dancing on mailboxes is roleplaying.
Also getting a mount is possible at level 1 now, for convenience, which completely removes immersion/social/roleplay aspects of the game.
Hahaha no. The mount was a reward for collecting 35 heirlooms. It had nothing to do with convenience, and mounts don't affect immersion or roleplay.
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If you guys are going to revive a 2 month old topic, please at least try and stay on topic.
If you guys are going to revive a 2 month old topic, please at least try and stay on topic.
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Fucking Paladins, man.
If you are worried about walking to the trainer
I'm not. I've specifically cited the uselessness of class trainers as one of the reasons why modern WoW sucks.
If you guys are going to revive a 2 month old topic, please at least try and stay on topic.
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Roadblock started it.