I'm quite confident Classic WoW will out shine retail for at least the next 2 years.

I doubt that will happen but it has been very encouraging how much support WoW Classic has been getting from the community. I was worried it would be too niche but Classic seems to still be going pretty strong on Twitch.

I still remember when people were convinced Conan and Aion were going to kill WoW. Gave me a good laugh at the time having come from a background playing DAOC, Shadowbane, Risk your life, and about 5 or 6 other mmos. The difference in the quality of net code and polish from the other mmos I had played vs WoW was insane. And to this day MMOs still pale in comparison for those reasons, among many others.

I still remember when people were convinced Conan and Aion were going to kill WoW. Gave me a good laugh at the time.

Yeah, I remember that, especially with Conan. :smile:

Swtor was the best chance of killing wow so much they could have done but the sold out , What a waste that was

Anyone care to speculate on what Classic making a splash would really do?

I'd guess even if initial turnout is tremendous developers will wait a few months to see if it's just a fad. Then three months later if player counts are still high and J. Allen Brack finally eats his words the production pipeline can finally begin to form. The current classic team isn't equipped for new content, nor is there much agreement on what new content would look like or if it should even be made. But we can trust Activision to milk a cow if they think they've found one.

Even in the most optimistic case Blizzard would not roll out new content in interference with the scheduled phases for which I've heard estimates of a 1.5 year span. More realistic might be 3 years for an expansion, or 5 years for a completely new game from Blizzard. A bandwagoning competitor might show up a bit quicker.

I'm excited for Classic but Vanilla 2.0 is what I really wanted. 2024 is a long time from now.

Anyone care to speculate on what Classic making a splash would really do?

I think if Classic succeeds and outshines "retail WoW"; we will see a resurgence in the MMO market. I sincerely think that if Classic proves to be a shaker in the industry, we will see a comeback of MMOs that promise a more cohesive social experience. One that encourages teamwork and interaction with people.

There's a huge market of players who played Everquest, Asheron's Call, Ultima Online and other MMOs that encouraged social interaction that have had no where to go for several years.

WoW Classic might change that.

Blizzard isn’t going to want Classic to compete with Retail. Classic is such a win win win for Blizzard that I’m surprised they didn't release it sooner.

After all these years of wow-killers, the thing that is most likely to kill wow is - itself.

Hopefully it happens :lol:

Is this what they call a “self fulfilling prophecy”?

Blizzard isn’t going to want Classic to compete with Retail. Classic is such a win win win for Blizzard that I’m surprised they didn't release it sooner.

Don’t forget people who might never got into wow, but will now thanks to the classic hype

ya know, this makes me really curious. im sure blizz will never make these numbers public, but BOY oh boy, would i love to see how many people are playing classic VS how many are on retail. like, could classic actually outpace retail? would it outpace something like FF XIV?

Classic will never over take retail in terms of numbers. Achievements and progress is what keeps the mass majority of people interested in any game. See the mobile market, this game will have great numbers. But not to the levels of what retail currently has. But classic will be good news for the mmo market as a whole. Hell Everquest right now is only staying alive because of the paid progression servers.

ya know, this makes me really curious. im sure blizz will never make these numbers public, but BOY oh boy, would i love to see how many people are playing classic VS how many are on retail. like, could classic actually outpace retail? would it outpace something like FF XIV?

I think we will be able to see player base numbers, like how you can see the current player difference between OSRS and RS3.

I think it's definitely going to have an affect on retail wow. I guarantee it will.

I'm not sure how long Classic WoW has many players. Of course the game is totally hyped right now, but I would say that more than 50% of the players don't know what they're getting into. If not much more.
And in the end only those who love Classic WoW stay, the young players of today need fast paced shit.

I'm not sure how long Classic WoW has many players. Of course the game is totally hyped right now, but I would say that more than 50% of the players don't know what they're getting into. If not much more.
And in the end only those who love Classic WoW stay, the young players of today need fast paced shit.

I disagree. The amount of private servers and their populations clearly show a market for Classic. I do think the numbers will fall after the initial first few months but that is normal for a lot of MMOs.

And in the end only those who love Classic WoW stay, the young players of today need fast paced shit.

It’s funny. I look at my brother who is 13 years old and a Fortnite fiend. And I think there is no way he could ever enjoy classic.

But in 2004 when I was 11 and playing games like Halo, Unreal Tournament, Tony Hawk, this little nose-picker found a way to fall in love with WoW and stuck with it.

There is definitely a massive amount of kids today that probably won’t get into Classic WoW. But with a lot of returning players (like myself, stopped playing before Cata) their siblings, sons, younger family members I think will get into it and stick with it.

Its hard for a new player to get into a game seven expansions deep. Like how it would be hard to convince anyone to watch Game of Thrones when it’s seven seasons in.

I think Classic keeps it simple and is a lot more inviting for new players, even younger ones that have never touched anything like an MMO.

Its hard for a new player to get into a game seven expansions deep. Like how it would be hard to convince anyone to watch Game of Thrones when it’s seven seasons in.

I think Classic keeps it simple and is a lot more inviting for new players, even younger ones that have never touched anything like an MMO.

Never seen it discussed this way but I think you're onto something really important here - to echo your point, I know that Mad Men is a good TV show, and I know that GoT is great too. But seven seasons in? To me I find just the huge quantity of it all repellant - that feeling of being so far behind that it's not worth beginning.

Classic WoW is taking it back to one great game which will be far more desirable for people new to the IP or people who wanted to play but felt that they were too late. I'm sure it will reach surprising demographics and not just old fogies :smile:

I'm not sure how long Classic WoW has many players. Of course the game is totally hyped right now, but I would say that more than 50% of the players don't know what they're getting into. If not much more.
And in the end only those who love Classic WoW stay, the young players of today need fast paced shit.

I disagree. The amount of private servers and their populations clearly show a market for Classic. I do think the numbers will fall after the initial first few months but that is normal for a lot of MMOs.

Ye and what is the different between Classic Retail and Private Servers?
You got it Mate, on private Servers playing mostly Classic Lovers, on Retail we will have like 60% or more what we call "classic tourists" and ye, I dont think that 100% of the tourists will stay ;)