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 Nyxt
(@nyxt)
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My thoughts after Classic World of Warcraft, if they do anything after this, would be them launching/re-releasing Classic World of Warcraft: The Burning Crusade. It makes sense and allows us to continue our journey to the next expansion. It easier on blizzard, what's in and what's out is clear, the story, the adventure....so forth is already laid out for us and will have alot of content to go through versus creating small Classic+ content...I don't see them putting much effort into creating new content for Classic WoW when they are already doing this in current/retail WoW.

Plus, Classic World of Warcraft was just to bring back what was once missed, so following that logic it only make sense to bring back TBC since there is an audience for it, myself included! Classic TBC should be just as huge as Classic is doing right now, my opinion of course.

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Posted : 03/10/2019 5:18 am
(@pan0phobik)
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I created the thread under the presumption that the phases will take at least 2ish years to go all the way through until we're at the point of clearing Naxx, etc. I know there aren't hard dates set but that seemed to be what I took away from the phase explanations. I guess I can see how it was interpreted otherwise. My worry was about them just simply rushing through classic faster than intended due to all of its popularity and their eagerness to capitalize on it.

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Topic starter Posted : 03/10/2019 5:57 am
 Nyxt
(@nyxt)
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I created the thread under the presumption that the phases will take at least 2ish years to go all the way through until we're at the point of clearing Naxx, etc. I know there aren't hard dates set but that seemed to be what I took away from the phase explanations. I guess I can see how it was interpreted otherwise. My worry was about them just simply rushing through classic faster than intended due to all of its popularity and their eagerness to capitalize on it.

I hope they don't rush it either!
If you remember, after Naxx was released, TBC wasn't far behind it, which made Naxx irrelevant when your leveling to 70.
They should, whether they do it or not, take it slow with the phases, but not too slow.
They just need to have a good gap between releasing Phase 6, the last phase i think, and what they plan on doing next, if there is a next...so the slower people can catch up and experience it...it should be better now since we know the strats unlike when it was released people had to figure out what to do and make sure they have great gear to complete it

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Posted : 03/10/2019 12:25 pm
(@black-monarch)
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I don't think you understand the term Classic and how it relates to World of Warcraft.

I absolutely do. Classic = vanilla = 1.x

This has been the case since at least 2009.
Using Classic in front of TBC or Wrath is acceptable.

Hahaha no.

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Posted : 09/10/2019 8:26 pm
 Nyxt
(@nyxt)
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I absolutely do. Classic = vanilla = 1.x

On the Blizzard WoW site, it says this:
WHAT IS WOW® CLASSIC?
Azeroth As It Was
It seems like they refer it to the past, what it once was...what it used to be...not retail...TBC is also Azeroth As It Was (during the burning crusade time)....

TBC is a Classic in Blizzards timeline...

Do you think there is a possibility of WoW TBC the 2nd Coming, WoW TBC 2.0, or maybe they will call it WoW Classic: TBC (expansion)...?
Still a Classic...so like the posts before its acceptable for us to use Classic TBC as a term if/when they re-release World of Warcraft: The Burning Crusade Expansion.

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Posted : 10/10/2019 5:07 am
(@telvaine)
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I have the solution to your confusion here. Using "classic" (not capitalized) makes that word an adjective. Using "Classic" (capitalized) makes that word a proper noun, as in a shorthand method for referring to World of Warcraft Classic, the game we are all currently playing. I think Nyxt hit is on the head with "WoW Classic: TBC" as the likely naming convention for future installments of our current obsession.

Huzzah for rules of grammar, now we can all use the word "classic" in different contexts and effectively communicate our message to each other!

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Posted : 10/10/2019 5:19 am
(@redstain)
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I have the solution to your confusion here. Using "classic" (not capitalized) makes that word an adjective. Using "Classic" (capitalized) makes that word a proper noun, as in a shorthand method for referring to World of Warcraft Classic, the game we are all currently playing. I think Nyxt hit is on the head with "WoW Classic: TBC" as the likely naming convention for future installments of our current obsession.

Huzzah for rules of grammar, now we can all use the word "classic" in different contexts and effectively communicate our message to each other!

He is not going to accept it just for the sake of trolling..

Can't wait for classic MoP(Please no.)

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Posted : 10/10/2019 6:16 am
(@beaty)
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i guess they will base the decision on the loads of subscription data they are constantly gathering, have access to and analyse.

im pretty sure they have insights of what are the right timespans between announcements, the release of new phases etc. to build hype and to get people to resub because they see numbers falling and so on.

after all they want more money to make shareholders happy.

furthermore from a business standpoint i think its more likely to happen that they just bring back the other addons next because based on the assumption that they have more backed up data from the addons that came after classic it costs less to re-release them than to create classic+ and canibibalize/ridicule bfa even more. i would use the truckloads of excess money to strenghten my other brands or create a totally new product that reels in players from competitors who arent playing blizz games right now

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Posted : 10/10/2019 6:32 am
(@rijndael)
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I have the solution to your confusion here. Using "classic" (not capitalized) makes that word an adjective. Using "Classic" (capitalized) makes that word a proper noun, as in a shorthand method for referring to World of Warcraft Classic, the game we are all currently playing. I think Nyxt hit is on the head with "WoW Classic: TBC" as the likely naming convention for future installments of our current obsession.

Huzzah for rules of grammar, now we can all use the word "classic" in different contexts and effectively communicate our message to each other!

He is not going to accept it just for the sake of trolling..

Can't wait for classic MoP(Please no.)

Yeah, seriously. Let's not pull a Neville Chamberlain and go the way of appeasement with this. It's not going to work.

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Posted : 10/10/2019 7:27 am
(@jodiug)
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Long term, I think there are three options to keep people playing Classic.

1. Classic reboots and you can choose to start over from level 1 on a fresh server.
2. Classic is no longer Classic but instead "Retail from 10 years ago". First, it's TBC Classic, then WotlK Classic, and in 10 years, we will have BfA Classic.
3. New development and the release of Classic+.

What I don't understand about the Classic TBC proposal, is that it just delays the inevitable choice between the above three options.

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Posted : 10/10/2019 8:08 am
(@telvaine)
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Personally I would love it if they could just make servers that progress through vanilla, tbc, wotlk, and legion, then restart, skipping all the nonsense of the other three expansions that contributed nothing to the main story arch of the warcraft universe.

But, I would prefer that they apply class design from MOP since I feel like that was the best pvp.

But this is also why I feel like these threads get kind of pointless, because over and over again it just ends up with everyone saying "I prefer this".

I wish I had more programming skills, less employment, and didn't live in a country with laws, then I could just run my own super wow pserver and create the game I want.

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Posted : 10/10/2019 9:44 am
(@pan0phobik)
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Personally I would love it if they could just make servers that progress through vanilla, tbc, wotlk, and legion, then restart, skipping all the nonsense of the other three expansions that contributed nothing to the main story arch of the warcraft universe.

But, I would prefer that they apply class design from MOP since I feel like that was the best pvp.

But this is also why I feel like these threads get kind of pointless, because over and over again it just ends up with everyone saying "I prefer this".

I wish I had more programming skills, less employment, and didn't live in a country with laws, then I could just run my own super wow pserver and create the game I want.

In defense of the thread. Almost everyone took what I said the wrong way and completely missed my point. It wasn't for the purpose of discussing what we want in classic+ etc. It's to discuss the pacing of the phases. I used classic+ as an example of a motivator.

So I agree with you that deciding what classic+ should be is a waste of time but, unfortunately, this thread was not intended for that.

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Topic starter Posted : 10/10/2019 11:25 am
(@telvaine)
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Personally I would love it if they could just make servers that progress through vanilla, tbc, wotlk, and legion, then restart, skipping all the nonsense of the other three expansions that contributed nothing to the main story arch of the warcraft universe.

But, I would prefer that they apply class design from MOP since I feel like that was the best pvp.

But this is also why I feel like these threads get kind of pointless, because over and over again it just ends up with everyone saying "I prefer this".

I wish I had more programming skills, less employment, and didn't live in a country with laws, then I could just run my own super wow pserver and create the game I want.

In defense of the thread. Almost everyone took what I said the wrong way and completely missed my point. It wasn't for the purpose of discussing what we want in classic+ etc. It's to discuss the pacing of the phases. I used classic+ as an example of a motivator.

So I agree with you that deciding what classic+ should be is a waste of time but, unfortunately, this thread was not intended for that.

Lol bro you are totally right, I didn't even realize how bad your thread got hijacked.

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Posted : 10/10/2019 11:52 am
(@cigarettes)
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Personally, I think Blizzard has absolutely no idea what they're doing.

It was clear with the launch + server issues they did not realize Classic would be as successful as it has become.

I can only imagine that the Blizzard offices are as full of debate as the forums are. If it were up to me, I'd choose the Classic+ model. I was a long-time Runescape player, and when OSRS was released people had a similar sentiment about Jagex, and their abilities as a company.

To everyone's pleasant surprise, Jagex was able to maintain the game, and even bring in new content that everyone found agreeable.

Unfortunately for us, that required a lot of community interaction and transparency I don't think Blizzard is capable of.

As consumers, we need to be clear about our expectations: no microtransactions, no more HK drama, and more say from the community. If we give Blizzard to much control, they'll inevitably fuck it up, that part isn't up for debate.

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Posted : 16/10/2019 10:14 pm
(@black-monarch)
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Do you think there is a possibility of WoW TBC the 2nd Coming, WoW TBC 2.0, or maybe they will call it WoW Classic: TBC (expansion)...?

No, it's just "WoW: The Burning Crusade"
I have the solution to your confusion here. Using "classic" (not capitalized) makes that word an adjective. Using "Classic" (capitalized) makes that word a proper noun, as in a shorthand method for referring to World of Warcraft Classic, the game we are all currently playing.

No, that would only make things MORE confusing. Blizzard's own terminology, as used in the Wall of No for many years, refers to "legacy servers" and "limited expansion content realms".
Can't wait for classic Legacy MoP

I agree :)

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Posted : 19/10/2019 12:38 am
(@telvaine)
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Do you think there is a possibility of WoW TBC the 2nd Coming, WoW TBC 2.0, or maybe they will call it WoW Classic: TBC (expansion)...?

No, it's just "WoW: The Burning Crusade"
I have the solution to your confusion here. Using "classic" (not capitalized) makes that word an adjective. Using "Classic" (capitalized) makes that word a proper noun, as in a shorthand method for referring to World of Warcraft Classic, the game we are all currently playing.

No, that would only make things MORE confusing. Blizzard's own terminology, as used in the Wall of No for many years, refers to "legacy servers" and "limited expansion content realms".
Can't wait for classic Legacy MoP

I agree :)

Glad to see you back with good quality posting on this legacy wow forum.

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Posted : 19/10/2019 6:34 am
(@rasm586c)
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Let me start out by saying that I absolutely hope that they will make Classic+. I much rather see classic+ than TBC.

With that being said I sadly don't think it will happen. Even if Classic is a major success by the end of the last phase I think Blizzard will go the safe route and re-release TBC. It will take a lot less effort and at the same time they can't mess up (people already know what TBC was) and the potential for backlash is enormous with Classic+.

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Posted : 21/10/2019 6:53 am
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