I remember rerolling horde for northdale with the side thought of "hey at least all the tryhards are going to be on horde with me this time and it won't be like how it has been for years on alliance". Then everyone went ally and formed apes and all those guys and made Horde miserable. So much for my break.
I'm just sitting over here enjoying the fact that the picture appears to show a full raid team of gnomes and dwarves. I don't see a single human warrior in there. No humans at all actually. I was kind of expecting to see everybody rolling the straight min-max races all the way down the line. I mean dwarf priests, check. Gnome casters, check. But gnomes with shields :lol:
They are fully min/maxed as every gnome melee is going to get R14. So in the PvP sense they are still min/maxing haha.
Dunno whats so great about anything in PvE classic or even private scenes "difficulty" did emerald dream bk in the day, and its nothing more than having enough time to pull this kind of shit off. And these boys prolly just unemployed cos they do it on the reg. This has the same amount of difficulty and excitement as a somebody who has ran countless marathons, succeeds to run yet another one. Method hate I can kinda understand from this dude if he identifys as a private player but thats what always happens when "your" group is being "attacked", would I care if I would be a privplayer, no.
What pippina said is the only thing that amuses tbh
It is just sad to hear:
"This game is easy, killing Ragnaros with 12 sta neck" Warlock from the APES, after the world first kill.
It was like, Muhammed Ali comes back to rings, and Knocked out at first punch!
Sad.
But on the other hand, it is a great progress for a well organised Guild.
GG.
This is all so petty, lol.
Congratulations APES! Now you guys can get some sleep :p
Dunno if they had strict priviledges on voice comms but they didn't sound excited at all. I guess I'd be dead too after doing something like that.
If you want to hear screaming, you should get in voice comms when a shaman is tanking, its &*%$#@! exhilarating and heart pounding, literally proving millions of people wrong.
No point getting excited really when you are the only guild at 60. There's no race at that point. The content is also complete faceroll compared to private servers so I imagine it was a huge letdown to those in the raid.
They are fully min/maxed as every gnome melee is going to get R14. So in the PvP sense they are still min/maxing haha.
Yep. They are next level min maxed hahaha. Takes a good eye to recognize that though.
I love how the threads on this forum that were talking about the potential of a week 1 Rag kill had far more traffic than the post about it actually happening. Those other threads were riddled with people gasping and laughing at the notion that this was possible, yet here we are. For those of us who had a pretty good feeling that week 1-2 was going to be the kill, it feels really good and bad at the same time... Because most of us that knew this was the case were also very interested in seeing the game tuned to be a bit more challenging. So while we knew this would happen, it also stings to know that Classic will be such a watered down version of our private experience.
I'll be honest... The "I told you so's" are really awful for everyone. I hate that I knew layering was going to be terrible. I hate that I knew MC was trivial... I hate that most of us who played private had been preaching about these issues for the past year and it was dismissed ("Private server values are off hehe Classic will be tough hehehe" - right, they are overtuned.). And what I hate the most, is that we were right. Nobody here won. There is no prize for a watered down version of Classic. And this is why the guild did not celebrate after the kill. This entire thing is a bit disappointing.
My bet was Progress - But gratz to APES!
How is it a watered version, its 1.12 patch and thats it. Even if it would be buffed 20% hp/dmg what you have been asking for it would just take a few more hours of gearing and leveling maybe a few consumables? For the content to be challenging A. You would have to hit your head really haŕd on something really hard or B. Modify the content so much its not even close to what it was.
A modified version would interest me down the line but most players prolly havent farmed private servers for years and plan to just enjoy it.
None of the ppl I know came to play classic for its raid difficulty. With a background from server first mythic çlears and high arena ratings, we know its gonna be a breeze/slugfest but for the most iconic loots in the game we want to do it.
How is it a watered version, its 1.12 patch and thats it.
No. You didnt start with original talents. You dont start Classic with 8 debuff slots, you get 16. You dont have progressive itemization. It is not as simple as "duuur it be 1.12 so it be da same" - it isnt. Vanilla WoW was significantly more challenging than Classic. Significantly. Private was intentionally tuned to be more challenging than vanilla. There are MANY nuances that make Classic easier, and they add up. Classic is the easiest version of vanilla we have seen by a massive margin - you can find videos of APES talking about this exact subject. Which is why APES didnt even run a specific guild comp to get the world first. They simply took everyone in the level range and went into MC to clear. The clear itself took less effort and less coordination than similar attempts on private.
I'm not going to sit here and say that changing some of this would have had a huge impact on the world first teams, but it would have on the majority of the playerbase. The version of MC we have is much easier than it was in vanilla. Though the entire game would have needed to be tuned by quite a lot to be relevant for the modern gamer.
There are MANY nuances that make Classic easier, and they add up. Classic is the easiest version of vanilla we have seen by a massive margin
yup, some might say now is the best time to try new stuff since everything has never been so easy... :wink:
yup, some might say now is the best time to try new stuff since everything has never been so easy... :wink:
But most wont. Because they still wont be interested in carrying dead weight. Its the harsh truth. If everyone goes fully meme tarded, the raid cant take off, and if they full min/max they can clear the content in the first week. Most will fall somewhere in between leaning more towards optimization because people value their time.
The main reason why I gave up going hard on a mainspec warrior and rushing to 60/speed clearing content again is I knew i'd be left unfulfilled again. This is why i've embraced going hard on a meme spec again (prot pally) because I know thats going to keep me playing overall.
The main reason why I gave up going mainspec and instead of rushing as a warrior and doing speed clears again I knew I'd be left unfulfilled again. Why I've embraced going hard on a meme spec again because I know that's going to keep me playing overall.
amen :)
Even if it would be a "harder" version of vanilla its still gonna be piss easy for players who are worth more than a grain of salt.
I would of liked blizz to bring all the talents bk and patch em as they went bk then but it wouldnt og mattered alot cos we still know how/what would be the best thing. Guides are everywhere
You cannot erase the knowledge/ skill, its just gonna be piss easy unless they bring some broken patch from before and I would bet it would still gonna be super easy, take a few hours more? Yeah maybe but still easy, the bosses would have to be reworked etc so the first ones would have to research and try it out but after that everybody reads a guide and done.
Classic gameplay doesnt support some super hard gameplay, you just need to bring shit players so you get some difficulty.
Right Isomena BUT Classic is nerfed uneccesarily. So while I can understand your perspective, why take a game that will likely be trivial by modern standards and then nerf the shit out of it?
I love how the threads on this forum that were talking about the potential of a week 1 Rag kill had far more traffic than the post about it actually happening.
To be fair, those threads were taking place before the game launched. Everybody's too busy playing now to log on and talk about this.