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 aeh
(@aeh)
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Hey peeps of the Barrens.Chat!

https://eu.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wow-classic-european-realms-structure/56694
As we get closer to WoW Classic’s release, we thought now would be a good time to talk about our plans for Classic realms here in Europe.

We’ve prepared several realms, which will include Player vs Player, Player vs Environment, and Role-playing realms.

For Classic, we’re planning on not splitting up realms by language. This has its advantages and disadvantages, but overall, we think that it’s the best starting point for WoW Classic. An exception will be made for the Russian language, which will have separate realms due to its reliance on the Cyrillic Alphabet. For technical reasons this will also mean Russian is going to have its own separate game client, similar to what happened in The Burning Crusade.

We think this approach will give players more freedom to move around to where they want, and find guilds and friends that best match their interests.

Greetings,
Aeh

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Topic starter Posted : 20/06/2019 1:00 pm
(@teebling)
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The UK server is now accepting French, German and Spanish refugees.

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Posted : 20/06/2019 1:04 pm
 aeh
(@aeh)
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I must say, as a German, that I find this mega nice. I have so much hoped that no language specific servers come.

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Topic starter Posted : 20/06/2019 1:06 pm
(@frosted)
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I saw the reddit post on this, the euro's there were complaining about the difficulty grouping alongside people of different languages, and the 'unofficial' servers that sprouted up.

Lots of potential for conflict, but a parallel: in EvE Online, where there is only 1 server, there are lots of national / regional groups and it provides interesting content: russians vs. the world, etc etc.

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Posted : 20/06/2019 1:08 pm
(@shyneur)
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Since the announcement, a lot of known streamers/players on Twitter here in France are debating about if it's a good or bad thing to not split up realms by language...

I don't mind because I'm bilingual, but we got a reputation here that we're (for the majority) not very good english speakers so it might be a problem for some that would shy away instead of socializing with others, which is against the "true classic experience".

So mixed feeling for now, even if in the end, communities gatherer will come along and pick one server and invite everyone that speaks their mothertongue to join, so eventually this problem isn't a real one.

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Posted : 20/06/2019 1:08 pm
 aeh
(@aeh)
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Since the announcement, a lot of known streamers/players on Twitter here in France are debating about if it's a good or bad thing to not split up realms by language...

I don't mind because I'm bilingual, but we got a reputation here that we're (for the majority) not very good english speakers so it might be a problem for some that would shy away instead of socializing with others, which is against the "true classic experience".

So mixed feeling for now, even if in the end, communities gatherer will come along and pick one server and invite everyone that speaks their mothertongue to join, so eventually this problem isn't a real one.

You will still have communities that only speak German or another language ;).

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Topic starter Posted : 20/06/2019 1:12 pm
 res
(@res)
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I saw the reddit post on this, the euro's there were complaining about the difficulty grouping alongside people of different languages, and the 'unofficial' servers that sprouted up.

Lots of potential for conflict, but a parallel: in EvE Online, where there is only 1 server, there are lots of national / regional groups and it provides interesting content: russians vs. the world, etc etc.

It's mainly a problem with Russians, who usually prefer not to speak english compared to the rest of Europe which use english as their main form of communication online. Another group that does this are the Chinese, in both cases it's probably because they are very large groups so they can get by just within their own language-community.

Not splitting up the European community is probably what I hoped for. And not having to deal with empty speech bubbles (Cyrillic text that my client doesn't recognize) is also great. Couldn't be happier as a Scandinavian who has played on private servers and formed many bonds with Germans, French, Greeks, etc. over the years.

Here's to more of that!

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Posted : 20/06/2019 1:45 pm
(@rinkusan)
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No hablas Ingles? Deal with it, mon amie. (Und damit keiner meckert, ich bin auch kein Muttersprachler)

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Posted : 20/06/2019 2:19 pm
(@rijndael)
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As an American I would like to thank all (most) of you Europeans who speak our great (de facto) national language. It makes traveling to Europe a hell of a lot easier.

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Posted : 20/06/2019 2:22 pm
Peshoturboto
(@peshoturboto)
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I personally think this is a really bad idea, hopefully Blizzard change their minds on this. They must release the list of realms as soon as possible so communities can start forming from now and english speakers can know wich servers to avoid. Nobody wants to roll on a server and 2 weeks later realize nobody is speaking english there.

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Posted : 20/06/2019 7:29 pm
(@stfuppercut)
Noble Member

At times like this, it is nice to be in North America. Just VPN block everyone in the eastern hemisphere and isolate all of South America to their own realms. I'm sure the rest of the world is happy to have the North Americans off of their realms, and the feeling is mutual!

Biggest grievance with private is dealing with all of the Russian and Chinese users. I will miss some of my European friends, but this is just how it has to be </3

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Posted : 20/06/2019 11:02 pm
(@sabiza)
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It'll end up same as on Drak'Thul EU realm now. It's full of Czech / Slovak people and they don't respect the rules about the official language.

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Posted : 20/06/2019 11:56 pm
(@daisykutter)
Estimable Member

Do we know if there will be client localization at least? My father, a very hardcore player of 71, doesn't speak english, and if the quests are not in spanish he won't be able to play...

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Posted : 21/06/2019 12:02 am
 aeh
(@aeh)
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Do we know if there will be client localization at least? My father, a very hardcore player of 71, doesn't speak english, and if the quests are not in spanish he won't be able to play...

There will be 100% translated clients. If not, it will not be difficult to have such translations done, we have everything in principle.

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Topic starter Posted : 21/06/2019 12:04 am
(@daisykutter)
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I really don't care about language specific servers, but here in Spain not everybody speaks english so maybe some playerbase will be lost with the decision, right now thinking in a couple of friends. At least we have the client for them ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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Posted : 21/06/2019 12:08 am
(@shamelesseu)
Estimable Member

I like meeting random people throughout the realm from different countries.. I prefer not playing with russians for obvious reasons of language barrier and latency issues.. I am actually looking forward to playing with germans, have done so before on retail in RBG groups without problems.

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Posted : 21/06/2019 12:11 am
(@cazzava)
New Member

I personally love playing with ppl from all over the world.
But this is a big mistake, to many ppl in the EU either don't speak english or don't want to, i have been on servers where the primary language was not english, and i do understand that ppl wanna use their native tongue, but you try making a trade with someone that speak a different language, or joining a pug just to realize that the only english the party speaks was the "LF healer for XXX dungeon" they spammed in LFG/trade/general. that's the stuff nightmares are made of.
Not to mention looking at /1 and wondering what the #¤%& are ppl writing.
Even now the EU forum is being flooded with posts in every language present in the EU. They are however making a valid point by doing it, bc it does show what kinda problem communication is gonna be once the servers goes live.

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Posted : 21/06/2019 12:49 am
(@fthforever)
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I must say, as a German, that I find this mega nice. I have so much hoped that no language specific servers come.

Yes, I feel the same. Will not join a german guild, but maybe I do a german pug raid discord on my server because I cannot raidlead in english.

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Posted : 21/06/2019 12:52 am
 aeh
(@aeh)
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I must say, as a German, that I find this mega nice. I have so much hoped that no language specific servers come.

Yes, I feel the same. Will not join a german guild, but maybe a do german pug raid discord on my server because I cannot raidlead in english.

This would be a good Idea. Im also not in a german Guild, as you can see in my signature, im playing in GRIND, its a Guild from people all over the world. In principle we have been mostly private server players in the last 5+ years.

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Topic starter Posted : 21/06/2019 1:09 am
(@atkars)
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As a Latvian, I don't mind, but if I encounter some entitled fucks who can't speak in English and curse me in their native tongue that I don't understand, then we have a problem. For example - French. As people have mentioned they don't know or don't want to speak English.

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Posted : 21/06/2019 1:27 am
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