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 Nyxt
(@nyxt)
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... 4 resto druids, a druid main tank, 3 boomkins, and a shaman offtank...

I accept your challenge...

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Posted : 03/06/2019 1:18 pm
(@black-monarch)
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As for the Orc question, well...
Thrall is a shaman, therefore every shaman must be an orc.

Screw you, all my shamans are Draenei!

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Posted : 12/08/2019 10:39 pm
(@doomc)
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Unless you're playing for a guild going for world first I really don't think it's going to matter.

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Posted : 12/08/2019 10:44 pm
(@black-monarch)
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Another thing worth pointing out...raids are FORTY people. Thats a lot of slots to fill and having a player is always better than having an open slot. Unless your in a "full clear MC in 1 hour" super try-hard guild, pretty much _anyone_ can raid if they show up on time and can at least play their class/spec

Ill put it this way...(these numbers are arbitrary, im just trying to make a point)

If you are lvl 60 and logged in, you already have a 30% chance to get into a raid. (Depending on the raid and your class, you might not even have to be 60! Everyone wants free pally buffs!)
-Add to that, "i know how to play my class/spec reasonably well", your chances just went up to 40%
-add to that, "everyone knows im chill and i get along well with my guildmates". 60%.
-add on top of that, "i have at least most of my pre-raid BiS gear", now youre taking 80%.
-add to that, "ive min-maxed my race/class/talents/items/gear/enchants to be as good as possible"....needless to say, thats going to get you right up to 100%. Hell, if youre THAT dedicated, you'll want to find a new, more hardcore guild anyway.

THIS

Additionally, if you're a prot warrior, you have a 100% chance of getting into raids and getting first dibs on gear even if you have an IQ lower than your CPU temperature, because your guild is eventually going to need 8 well-geared prot warriors for the Horsemen fight and a prot warrior's rotation is only two buttons (sunder armor and... whatever the thing is that buffs the party)

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Posted : 12/08/2019 10:46 pm
(@mookey)
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It is hard to spot the difference if you pick the race for min-maxing if you are not in a group that is min-maxing everything. If you already are, you wouldn't be asking this question here, anyway. So it is a flavor. It is a character you are gonna play for a few years in advance. Pick the setup (flavor) that you like the most, that you will enjoy playing. Few percentage difference can be managed by smart play, smart gear choices & consumes.

The only difference to the "rule" would be an alliance priest. Dwarf really brings one unique, full and super useful raid ability to the table, it is a loss for the same time invested in building a character. However, even without the ward, you will be accepted as a good healer mostly in any raid anyway, due to the sheer lack of healers if you don't like the look & feel of Dwarfs.

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Posted : 13/08/2019 6:02 am
(@faendor)
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It is hard to spot the difference if you pick the race for min-maxing if you are not in a group that is min-maxing everything. If you already are, you wouldn't be asking this question here, anyway. So it is a flavor. It is a character you are gonna play for a few years in advance. Pick the setup (flavor) that you like the most, that you will enjoy playing. Few percentage difference can be managed by smart play, smart gear choices & consumes.

The only difference to the "rule" would be an alliance priest. Dwarf really brings one unique, full and super useful raid ability to the table, it is a loss for the same time invested in building a character. However, even without the ward, you will be accepted as a good healer mostly in any raid anyway, due to the sheer lack of healers if you don't like the look & feel of Dwarfs.

I agree with your points but I just feel like I had to mention that it is very funny how everyone is saying that there is lack of healers, which is actually not. There are so many players rolling healers nowadays. :mrgreen:

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Posted : 13/08/2019 6:17 am
(@zacheous)
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There is just no way I'd ever play this game worried about rolling a toon the way someone else wants me to roll it. What's the point in letting someone else tell you how and what to play. Stop with the videos they are pointless. Play the game in a couple weeks and figure out what you personally like that makes you happy.

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Posted : 13/08/2019 6:58 am
 Nyxt
(@nyxt)
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There is just no way I'd ever play this game worried about rolling a toon the way someone else wants me to roll it. What's the point in letting someone else tell you how and what to play. Stop with the videos they are pointless. Play the game in a couple weeks and figure out what you personally like that makes you happy.

This guy is right as well as others have said in this thread!
Play the game to have fun not as a job! (unless you get paid to play the game)

Think of Leeroy, you think he gave a f*ck about min/max-ing?
Naw....Leeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeroy!

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Posted : 13/08/2019 7:06 am
(@sudnep)
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I've heard a lot of talk about it and I think the thing that stuck out to me the most is that if you're interested in min maxxing, your racials for PvP will have much more impact than your racials for PvE so it's better to pick for PvP than PvE if you want to be all-rounder.
Regardless aesthetics trump racials imo.

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Posted : 13/08/2019 8:48 am
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