I can't wait to spam dungeons with friends and powerlevel while getting stronk rares.
My opinion - I am not sure about it. But I think after Level 40 it is not worth to Dungeon Spam...!
My opinion - I am not sure about it. But I think after Level 40 it is not worth to Dungeon Spam...!
Why???
I'm not sure if it's still worth it from the level of 40 because from that point on you'll get a lot of EP on quests etc. and the dungeons you can make are just not stacked.
Most classes can kill monsters relatively quickly from that point on, it's just a feeling, I can't confirm if it is true.
what about spamming maraudon from 43->50 , still worth more xp/h imo than questing and keep traveling beetween zone ? Then you have Brd, starting to get BIS plus make a ton xp by speed running it
I dunno, i tested on a local server after modifying the rates like on the beta classic wow, you could make like 5-6 bar just by doing the arena run on level 48. Is this possible to make every hour the same xp with quest ? If you take in consideration loot quests, gameobject quests, travel time, etc..
My opinion - I am not sure about it. But I think after Level 40 it is not worth to Dungeon Spam...!
Why???
Gratz! 60 levels! :biggrin:
I'm not sure if it's still worth it from the level of 40 because from that point on you'll get a lot of EP on quests etc. and the dungeons you can make are just not stacked.
Most classes can kill monsters relatively quickly from that point on, it's just a feeling, I can't confirm if it is true.
In my situation I cant find 4 other friends who will have a similar schedule to mine for the first 5-6 days of launch so I will likely be doing dungeon spamming (If I can get a group together) for 3-4 days and then breaking off on my own. Your speculation would actually work in my favor because I wont have a team to grind the whole way, so I hope youre right. Haha
Currently rolling with 9 players who will play quite a bit (know them all IRL) and 3 or 4 casuals/acquaintances. Group seems to grow each week.
edit: if anyone is specifically looking for a team for the first 4-5 days of classic, and is playing a warrior PM me. You would need to be able to keep a pretty high played time daily though. We are less concerned about your 1-16 time and are willing to delay our farm by a few hours for the right person.
This would come with the benefit of playing with us throughout the rest of Classic as well. We arent committing to guild leadership as most of us will be willing to jump guilds to crush content ASAP, so there will be no formal banner; just a group of guys who consistently play together.
Fast or not this seems the most enjoyable way to lvl up. Grouping up with your 4 buddies, doing a dungeon several times , so everyone got everything they need, go questing in duos, level enough for the next dungeon, repeat. After that go squad gank some players with the already nice and shiny gear. Make a riot in enemy territory :D
Fast or not this seems the most enjoyable way to lvl up. Grouping up with your 4 buddies, doing a dungeon several times , so everyone got everything they need, go questing in duos, level enough for the next dungeon, repeat. After that go squad gank some players with the already nice and shiny gear. Make a riot in enemy territory :D
Right? Hangout with your buds while gearing to the teeth. Take the odd break to messy quest allowing you to skip all the shit you dont want to do. Running around as a 5-man shit-kicker team full of thugs, smashing everyone in your path while simultaneously boasting one of the fastest xp/per hour strategies... Seems pretty appealing to me.
I'm not sure if it's still worth it from the level of 40 because from that point on you'll get a lot of EP on quests etc. and the dungeons you can make are just not stacked.
Most classes can kill monsters relatively quickly from that point on, it's just a feeling, I can't confirm if it is true.
In my situation I cant find 4 other friends who will have a similar schedule to mine for the first 5-6 days of launch so I will likely be doing dungeon spamming (If I can get a group together) for 3-4 days and then breaking off on my own. Your speculation would actually work in my favor because I wont have a team to grind the whole way, so I hope youre right. Haha
Currently rolling with 9 players who will play quite a bit (know them all IRL) and 3 or 4 casuals/acquaintances. Group seems to grow each week.
edit: if anyone is specifically looking for a team for the first 4-5 days of classic, and is playing a warrior PM me. You would need to be able to keep a pretty high played time daily though. We are less concerned about your 1-16 time and are willing to delay our farm by a few hours for the right person.
This would come with the benefit of playing with us throughout the rest of Classic as well. We arent committing to guild leadership as most of us will be willing to jump guilds to crush content ASAP, so there will be no formal banner; just a group of guys who consistently play together.
Hey. Hey. Hey,
It looks the same to me. I also have a group with which I spam dungeons - but I'm just not sure after level 40!
I'm really excited, I'm sure it'll be cool!
Hakurai put out a video on spellcleave; apparently it's much faster but also more dangerous.
Personally I know I won't do dungeons to level. I'll do them to take a break from questing to run a dungeon with friends or guildies for some fun/gear
Personally I know I won't do dungeons to level. I'll do them to take a break from questing to run a dungeon with friends or guildies for some fun/gear
I think this is the right way to look at it. I'm not playing wow to speed rush myself to 60. I'm playing to have fun and enjoy the RPG elements that are no longer available in WoW.
With that said, I will be leveling enchanting, so running the same dungeons a bunch of times is already on my list of things to do, if it allows me to gain more experience than I was expecting, well hey... that's great. But I'm definitely not only going to be playing a dungeon game. I could do that in retail wow with LFG. I'm going to use the dungeons to break up leveling and questing.
Dungeon grinding seems much better on paper than it actually will be.
You'll need to be on everyone's exact schedule. You're completely reliant on 4 other people to level at a decent pace. There are many elements that can completely stall a group. Someone falls asleep/gets sick/internet outage/power outage/mom pulls the plug/general burn out or boredom. Once that happens, uh oh, panic mode.
Bag space will become a huge issue, especially in later dungeons where you're pounding out dozens and dozens of runs. Unless you have a warlock, you're in a world of trouble in that department. Also when the warlock summons himself(unless you have 2), better hope he doesn't take more than 2 minutes to sell.(Hearth/vendor/accept own summon) How well you keep up with this affects everyone's ability to afford a mount.
Being behind on reputation is another thing but not that bad in the grand scheme of things.
I'm sure I'm missing some things.
Dungeon grinding seems much better on paper than it actually will be.
Perhaps, if you are inexperienced and don't know what to expect. For the rest of us, we know exactly what this will look like from a gameplay perspective. Anyone who is capable of doing this method, understands what it will entail.
You'll need to be on everyone's exact schedule. You're completely reliant on 4 other people to level at a decent pace. There are many elements that can completely stall a group. Someone falls asleep/gets sick/internet outage/power outage/mom pulls the plug/general burn out or boredom. Once that happens, uh oh, panic mode.
While this is true to an extent, its also an exaggeration. This method does not need to be used to 60 to be effective... For example, you may only be able to maintain a similar schedule for the first day or two and that will still be worthwhile. Having 4 other people to depend on exclusively also assumes you are only doing this with 4 members... I have been building a community on discord and am actively adding members. The goal here will be to run a temporary guild full of members that are interested in farming dungeons. You may not be with the same group each and every day, but the option will still exist and you will still be able to connect with a group of people interested in farming dungeons periodically.
Lets be clear... These videos are showing a min/maxed version of dungeon grinding, but from the numbers we are seeing in the Classic beta, any group comp of 5 players who are actively farming dungeons in an organized fashion are yielding tremendous results in contrast to what those same players would likely be producing on their own. This method will be more or less efficient depending on your individual spec, your group comp and your groups competence but overall, it looks pretty damn effective.
You are also not bound to dungeons for your entire grind. I'm sure groups will do (what I refer to as) some messy questing. Grabbing your group and quickly spamming out a quick burst of kill quests and avoiding quests that involve collection (due to your 5 man team). Consider this twinked group of level 35 players rolling into STV and quickly completing all the kill quests at Nessys before heading to another dungeon. When you are in dungeons, youre making insane xp per hour. When youre in the world, you arent being ganked and you are producing insane xp per hour. When your friends quit or the method stops working, you walk away geared to the teeth AND you havent used up a lot of quests, so your questing options are wide open.
Bag space will become a huge issue, especially in later dungeons where you're pounding out dozens and dozens of runs. Unless you have a warlock, you're in a world of trouble in that department. Also when the warlock summons himself(unless you have 2), better hope he doesn't take more than 2 minutes to sell.(Hearth/vendor/accept own summon) How well you keep up with this affects everyone's ability to afford a mount.
There are many dungeons with vendors nearby, so this isn't a huge concern and many BoE blue drops that are sold and shared by the group will help diminish your gold issues. Lets be clear here; people arent doing this to farm gold. Many of the people who are doing this, would rather hit 60 a day or two sooner without a mount (we will obviously get our mounts) and spend time grinding gold at 60 that would otherwise be spent grinding levels. The cost of opportunity of not being 60, reduces your overall gold FAR more than the worthless low level items you will leave behind during dungeons. Imagine hitting 60 in 5 days (real time) with 0 gold and no mount and then farming devilsaurs with your group of 5 while jumping layers every once in awhile to assist your farm. Your group could have thousands and thousands of gold in a few short days. While those items left behind in dungeons might add up, they are nothing in comparison to the gold that can be made at 60, especially with an organized group.
Lets also consider valuable items like cloth that drop from dungeons. Farming items like this will inflate your gold gain, even if you are forced to turn the cloth into bolts and bandages to help compact some of those items.
behind on reputation is another thing but not that bad in the grand scheme of things.
I'm sure I'm missing some things.
I cant think of a single reputation that matters and I could get while leveling. Infact, by getting to 60 faster, you can start grinding reputations that actually matter like Hydraxian Waterlord rep.
This method is not for everyone. But for those who are interested, it offers a really compelling way to level with an organized group. Will you be at the mercy of others? Sure. But thats sort of what Vanilla is all about... Community. Perhaps this method doesn't appeal to you, the best option would probably be for you to not participate.
I am trying to find more people to join our discord community. We will play alliance PvP NA realm. I do not want to shamelessly advertise without adding to the conversation so this is how you can dungeon reset without /camp:
Our group will be offering alt accounts as a service to our members so that we can reset your dungeons for you. Whether you are looking for a few members, you are a solo or you want to use us for our reset service, PM me for more details.
Hi,
I made a discord server to help players find a group to dungeon grind with https://discord.gg/BDU9MFD
More info on dungeon grind levelling here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1v-bG7u_6gFb1SXmSEUA458-OX0bNLdDkIssW2MF8XC8/edit
As a five-man its apparently even more viable for speed levelling than solo grinding.
More info on dungeon grind levelling here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1v-bG7u_6gFb1SXmSEUA458-OX0bNLdDkIssW2MF8XC8/edit
As a five-man its apparently even more viable for speed levelling than solo grinding.
Yeah, youre looking at about 4-5 days played with a strong group with good synergy and smart quest placement. With poor synergy, and less questing this only drops to about 6 days played, which is still 4 days played quicker than the average user on pservers (10-11 days), which will likely be MUCH faster than the average casual user due to the quantity of tourists we will see. In vanilla it was not uncommon for players (me included) to play upwards of 14-22 days on their first toon to 60.
I suppose the better part of this is that you can start grinding a lot of your pre BiS gear at about level 55, so the race isn't even to 60. You will start to get rewarded from this so much sooner and be building towards your pre BiS while leveling.
Players using this will reach 60 quickly, with a handful of pre BiS items, quicker than the average user and will have the benefit of collecting meaningful items like the key to UBRS along the way. All while playing with their friends and avoiding a lot of the chaos that exists in the PvP world. A very appealing option for many players, especially for those of us who have done the grind many many times... This is a fresh take on something we have done too many times to count.
most of us will be willing to jump guilds to crush content ASAP
Every guild's dream recruits ..
most of us will be willing to jump guilds to crush content ASAP
Every guild's dream recruits ..
This is the life of top end guilds. They get built, they get replaced, they get merged, they thrive, they die. You are a number. I actually think the community aspect is a lot more dynamic at the high end because while your guild doesnt matter as much to you individually, you are more connected with the other players at the top. The drama and all the relationships are sort of connected more intricately. You want your team to win, and you are willing to work as hard as you can to help them, but youre also okay with tossing on a different color jersey and playing with your other friends and acquaintances on another team. Its one big network of killers.
Dont want to hijack the thread though, we've had this chat in other threads recently =)