Ok let's see killerduki, let's try to recap and not derail:
In what of those options do you see yourself more about paladin tanking?
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Ok let's see @killerduki, let's try to recap and not derail:
In what of those options do you see yourself more about paladin tanking?
I already answered at the very beginning about this : https://barrens.chat/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1655&p=15712#p15712
I never said "Paladin is best Tank" , i always been telling that All Tanks are equal , but in diverse ways and do the same thing different way only.
Sure Main Tanking over 13 Years as Protection Paladin,clearing Naxx and AQ40 is never going to make me play with good players , neither over such amount of years Tanking i ever played with Good Players ....
Then how come in absolutely every single video you have ever posted, you play with players that are all complete trash? Having done something does NOT mean you are good at it. Just because something can be done does not mean it's the optimal way to do it.
Or actually you are the one who insult now and the one who ignore the evidence given.
Ok, so your "evidence" that mobs do 4x the damage in endgame vanilla raiding is by linking a video from a level 35 dungeon where you both use wildly different gear.
And even in that video, the mobs are dealing twice as much damage as in Classic. Which is still pretty damn far from 400% more damage.
But because the discussion is actually about Paladins viability at level 60 and not at leve 35, then please stop trying to derail and troll the thread by linking something that has nothing to do with the discussion at hand, and instead compare taken damage between private servers and vanilla in an actual raid instead.
And this gem is just hillarious:
Perhaps you speak that for yourself , not for me.
I have been doing this way before your private servers comes up and i clearly know what's wrong or right about which part of stuffs.
Congratulations. You proved that you had the game installed in 2005 and that you were capable of finding the screenshot button. Thats literally all it proves. It doesnt prove that you know what you are talking about at all. If any of those screenshots actually showed anything relevant, you would be posting them directly. Not posting a screenshot of the screenshot folder itself.
As a matter of fact, warcraftrealms show you did not even hit level 60 until Burning Crusade. Feel free to prove us wrong and actually post one of those screenshots in that folder. Until then I will assume you being level 60 in Vanilla is yet another lie on top of all the other lies.
https://www.warcraftrealms.com/charsheet/34186679
Hell yeah , Lay on Hand = 2 minutes duration you are completely safe and have easy time Main Tanking and killing target.
Shield Wall is what ? Few seconds to survive (maybe) Enrage...
Again for the thousands time. Lay on Hands can be cast on other people so Warriors will have both buffs. I apologize if Im breaking any forum rules here, but I suspect Killerduki is actually well below average intelligence as a person as he seems utterly incapable of grasping even the most basic logical connections. If that's not the case, then the only conclusion I can draw is that he's intentionally lying to derail any discussion on Paladin tanking as he actually WANTS people to hate the spec.
I strongly advice whoever is a moderator here to ban the guy, as he contributes absolutely nothing, and will just keep spouting off plain wrong misinformation to the end of days while insulting everyone that dare to disagree with him. No matter how well sourced their arguments are.
Sure Main Tanking over 13 Years as Protection Paladin,clearing Naxx and AQ40 is never going to make me play with good players , neither over such amount of years Tanking i ever played with Good Players ....
Then how come in absolutely every single video you have ever posted, you play with players that are all complete trash? Having done something does NOT mean you are good at it. Just because something can be done does not mean it's the optimal way to do it.
Or actually you are the one who insult now and the one who ignore the evidence given.
Ok, so your "evidence" that mobs do 4x the damage in endgame vanilla raiding is by linking a video from a level 35 dungeon where you both use wildly different gear.
And even in that video, the mobs are dealing twice as much damage as in Classic. Which is still pretty damn far from 400% more damage.
But because the discussion is actually about Paladins viability at level 60 and not at leve 35, then please stop trying to derail and troll the thread by linking something that has nothing to do with the discussion at hand, and instead compare taken damage between private servers and vanilla in an actual raid instead.
And this gem is just hillarious:
Perhaps you speak that for yourself , not for me.
I have been doing this way before your private servers comes up and i clearly know what's wrong or right about which part of stuffs.
Congratulations. You proved that you had the game installed in 2005 and that you were capable of finding the screenshot button. Thats literally all it proves. It doesnt prove that you know what you are talking about at all. If any of those screenshots actually showed anything relevant, you would be posting them directly. Not posting a screenshot of the screenshot folder itself.
As a matter of fact, warcraftrealms show you did not even hit level 60 until Burning Crusade. Feel free to prove us wrong and actually post one of those screenshots in that folder. Until then I will assume you being level 60 in Vanilla is yet another lie on top of all the other lies.
https://www.warcraftrealms.com/charsheet/34186679
Hell yeah , Lay on Hand = 2 minutes duration you are completely safe and have easy time Main Tanking and killing target.
Shield Wall is what ? Few seconds to survive (maybe) Enrage...
Again for the thousands time. Lay on Hands can be cast on other people so Warriors will have both buffs. I apologize if Im breaking any forum rules here, but I suspect Killerduki is actually well below average intelligence as a person as he seems utterly incapable of grasping even the most basic logical connections. If that's not the case, then the only conclusion I can draw is that he's intentionally lying to derail any discussion on Paladin tanking as he actually WANTS people to hate the spec.
I strongly advice whoever is a moderator here to ban the guy, as he contributes absolutely nothing, and will just keep spouting off plain wrong misinformation to the end of days while insulting everyone that dare to disagree with him. No matter how well sourced their arguments are.
Then how come in absolutely every single video you have ever posted, you play with players that are all complete trash? Having done something does NOT mean you are good at it. Just because something can be done does not mean it's the optimal way to do it.
As i tough , you do cherry pick always in order to bring more and more excuses in order to confirm your lies and false claims.
The Videos was never meant to be to show off how big E_Peen i got and clearing easy using proper and high gear.
The Videos was recorded for educational purposes with Gear pre and current Dungeon/Raid level using terrible Group in order to show in details how fights work as "Hard Mode" , "Long Mode" and what people should do in specific areas and spots.
Such educational purpose makes people much more comfortable to do very same things so much easier with better Group or Gear.
In order to teach something to someone, you show the very weakness with hardest ways , so they can get it so easy.
That's why my VIdeos are/were recorded in such purpose , not to prove that Paladin can Tank , but to show that Paladin can do easy contents as Progression with even terrible players!
Ok, so your "evidence" that mobs do 4x the damage in endgame vanilla raiding is by linking a video from a level 35 dungeon where you both use wildly different gear.
Let us all see your evidence?! What you brought as evidence in order to claim something like this?!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jC32eb-rQ8Q
RorrThrall
Published on Nov 3, 2006
No Consumes , No Buffs, No Def Cap , Rend does = 344 damage on a Dungeon 1/2 Geared Warrior (poor gear as Tank).
https://youtu.be/uLh3dJESY3M?t=180
This is me Tanking in Nostalrius/Elysium/Lighthope
Shit tons of Consumes , Lots Buffs , No Def Cap , Greater Stoneshield Potion used for extra Armor, Rend does = 1033 damage on a Pre Raid Gear.
Nothing more than a Pure Evidence given.
So far you criticize it and yet nothing from you so far , no evidence you gave at all.
344 x 3 = 1032 = evidence that 3 times higher Physical damage than Original Vanilla Pservers are doing.
And even in that video, the mobs are dealing twice as much damage as in Classic. Which is still pretty damn far from 400% more damage.
But because the discussion is actually about Paladins viability at level 60 and not at leve 35, then please stop trying to derail and troll the thread by linking something that has nothing to do with the discussion at hand, and instead compare taken damage between private servers and vanilla in an actual raid instead.
And that's what you got already, Repeating , because you are good at Ignorance and Denial :
Let us all see your evidence?! What you brought as evidence in order to claim something like this?!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jC32eb-rQ8Q
RorrThrall
Published on Nov 3, 2006
No Consumes , No Buffs, No Def Cap , Rend does = 344 damage on a Dungeon 1/2 Geared Warrior (poor gear as Tank).
https://youtu.be/uLh3dJESY3M?t=180
This is me Tanking in Nostalrius/Elysium/Lighthope
Shit tons of Consumes , Lots Buffs , No Def Cap , Greater Stoneshield Potion used for extra Armor, Rend does = 1033 damage on a Pre Raid Gear.
Nothing more than a Pure Evidence given.
So far you criticize it and yet nothing from you so far , no evidence you gave at all.
344 x 3 = 1032 = evidence that 3 times higher Physical damage than Original Vanilla Pservers are doing.
Congratulations. You proved that you had the game installed in 2005 and that you were capable of finding the screenshot button. Thats literally all it proves. It doesnt prove that you know what you are talking about at all. If any of those screenshots actually showed anything relevant, you would be posting them directly. Not posting a screenshot of the screenshot folder itself.
And yet you still cherry pick again . You told that i didn't play back in 2005/2006 and that i talk about Private Servers, i have shown you evidence that i played in 2005/2006 and did this already god know how many times.
What evidence you brought so far?! I see no evidence from you , only words and criticizing without sources to confirm your claims!
As a matter of fact, warcraftrealms show you did not even hit level 60 until Burning Crusade. Feel free to prove us wrong and actually post one of those screenshots in that folder. Until then I will assume you being level 60 in Vanilla is yet another lie on top of all the other lies.
Your Warcraftrealm shows that i began to play Jul 15, 06 , but my screenshots shows that i began to play 15th August 2006.
You still base your assumptions on nonsense , yet again you try to cherry pick more and more hair from the balls in order to "pretend" that you are right and i am wrong , you would go so far that you will also ask me to invent Time Machine and move back in times....
It's hilarious how far your excuses are going to be...
Again for the thousands time. Lay on Hands can be cast on other people so Warriors will have both buffs.
For few seconds , barely enrage time surviving , he will have that Shield Wall on top of the Lay on Hand, but then what? Warrior without CD.
Paladin Improved Lay on Hand can be used on ANYONE + 2 minutes duration + Huge amount of threat + Regenerating mana if Target is under 20%.
I never said that you can't use both as Warrior , but i been always telling that Extra Paladin Tank using his Def CD > Extra Warrior Tank using his Def CD.
Paladin Imp LoH is better than Warrior Shield Wall is what i always been telling ,you do ignore that.
I apologize if Im breaking any forum rules here, but I suspect Killerduki is actually well below average intelligence as a person as he seems utterly incapable of grasping even the most basic logical connections. If that's not the case, then the only conclusion I can draw is that he's intentionally lying to derail any discussion on Paladin tanking as he actually WANTS people to hate the spec.
Right here, everyone can clearly see who is lying , you are the one who intentionally trying to lie all the time.
I give sources, evidence , you give nothing = words and cherry picking stuffs for more excuses all the time, you dig very deep to the throat of every evidence presented , just in order to hope that you can be possibly right at whatever you are wrong.
I strongly advice whoever is a moderator here to ban the guy, as he contributes absolutely nothing, and will just keep spouting off plain wrong misinformation to the end of days while insulting everyone that dare to disagree with him. No matter how well sourced their arguments are.
Perhaps you are speaking this for yourself.
The one who insulted right now was you , the one who spout wrong misinformation, lies and contribute nothing right now is you.
You bring no evidence for anything you say = no sources, no videos , no screenshots = wrong information spouting using words and only words.
Therefore you are asking for Censoring those who provide evidence which is opposite of your personal believes .
We are less than 4 weeks away from Classic and Duki has said he will be running his own guild AND prot tanking. He has a youtube channel and I assume (due to his love for linking videos) that he will be producing some content. We will finally get to put an end to this debate. Lets see how fast Dukis guild can progress with a fresh 60 paladin. Lets see some encounters. He has painted a pretty glowing picture for prot pallies, I cant wait to see if he can deliver.
For this reason I have temporarily subbed to his youtube channel. I will be updating as often as possible.
My guess is that we see partial videos or none at all. And I would almost guarantee that we dont get an uncut version of MC. Certainly not during progression.
Your Warcraftrealm shows that i began to play Jul 15, 06 , but my screenshots shows that i began to play 15th August 2006.
If that was true you would be posting one of the screenshots. Instead you are only posting a screenshot of the actual screenshot folder itself. It's safe to assume you did NOT play at level 60 during Vanilla. You can EASILY prove me wrong by actually posting a screenshot of you during Vanilla at level 60 playing a Protection Paladin. Why dont you?
Not even going to bother addressing the videos, since I specifically requested comparisons in a RAID. Everyone knows private servers have intentionally buffed their content to make the game harder. But let's actually use our brains for a second here. If mobs in a dungeon hit for 200 damage, it stands to reason that you can buff this damage a lot more before it starts to become a problem than you can buff raid content where mobs hit for 3000 damage.
If you want to tank dungeons as a Paladin, thats perfectly fine. They are good tanks for it, something I have never disputed. It's their viability as RAID tanks that I am concerned with. When the mobs hit for 3000 damage instead of 300, then having Defensive stance means the 10% damage reduction will count for a lot more against a raidboss than it will in a dungeon. It also makes the higher armor of a Warrior tank a lot more valuable. Feel free to link a RAID video, and please find a video where we can see the actual armor and buffs of the players involved, and the debuffs involved.
I want an actual comparison here, not a cherry picked example.
Paladin Imp LoH is better than Warrior Shield Wall is what i always been telling ,you do ignore that.
Sigh... But it's NOT better. Shield Wall is the ability you want to use to make getting through an enrage phase without risk of tank death. It doesnt matter at all that it only lasts 10 seconds because thats in the majority of cases all you need.
Lay on Hands CANNOT ever be better than Shield Wall when a Warriot tank always have BOTH Lay on Hands and Shield Wall. One class has a 75% damage reduction on top of 30% more armor, while the other doesnt. It's seriously concering that you refuse to even aknowledge this.
The one who insulted right now was you , the one who spout wrong misinformation, lies and contribute nothing right now is you.
You bring no evidence for anything you say = no sources, no videos , no screenshots = wrong information spouting using words and only words.
Therefore you are asking for Censoring those who provide evidence which is opposite of your personal believes .
I have brought plenty sources and I have provided good and thorough reasoning for my arguments throughout this entire thread. What you are doing is deliberately spreading information that has already been proven incorrect. Please dont sit here and deny that.
The reason I would like to see you banned, is at some point debating with someone who is deliberately misleading everyone and refusing to read a single source being given to them that disprove their claims is futile. Ultimately the responsibility to make sure good and factual information gets through fall on the people in charge of moderating the arena where the information is being posted. Failure to do so, is to be complicit in the spread of false and incorrect information that is ultimately to the detriment of the classic community.
It's unfortunately not up to me.
Because you repeatedly refuse to aknowledge that you are incorrect in most of what you are saying, and because you have shown no will to meet anyone on a middle ground while being incredibly hostile and rude to anyone that disagree with you in spite of them providing sources for their claims or pointing out the huge glaring flaws with your own reasoning, there's simply no solution left in my eyes but to remove the person that have seemingly infinite time to spread misinformation from the arena of discussion.
Sorry if this seems harsh, but you brought it on yourself.
Your Warcraftrealm shows that i began to play Jul 15, 06 , but my screenshots shows that i began to play 15th August 2006.
Translation:
"Warcraftrealms shows that first time someone recorded and uploaded my character was July 15, 06 at level 20."
"My screenshots show that I didn't find the screenshot button until August 15, 2006."
Just helping out with logic.
PS. The same also shows you were level 50 on November 15, 2006 (2 weeks before TBC pre-patch) which proves you are blatantly lying.
Not only here but there as well.
Dusko Gjurov
Speaking as 12 Years experience Paladin Protection and Retribution , coming from 2005 and 2006 Raiding and good old times.
Your Warcraftrealm shows that i began to play Jul 15, 06 , but my screenshots shows that i began to play 15th August 2006.
If that was true you would be posting one of the screenshots. Instead you are only posting a screenshot of the actual screenshot folder itself. It's safe to assume you did NOT play at level 60 during Vanilla. You can EASILY prove me wrong by actually posting a screenshot of you during Vanilla at level 60 playing a Protection Paladin. Why dont you?
Not even going to bother addressing the videos, since I specifically requested comparisons in a RAID. Everyone knows private servers have intentionally buffed their content to make the game harder. But let's actually use our brains for a second here. If mobs in a dungeon hit for 200 damage, it stands to reason that you can buff this damage a lot more before it starts to become a problem than you can buff raid content where mobs hit for 3000 damage.
If you want to tank dungeons as a Paladin, thats perfectly fine. They are good tanks for it, something I have never disputed. It's their viability as RAID tanks that I am concerned with. When the mobs hit for 3000 damage instead of 300, then having Defensive stance means the 10% damage reduction will count for a lot more against a raidboss than it will in a dungeon. It also makes the higher armor of a Warrior tank a lot more valuable. Feel free to link a RAID video, and please find a video where we can see the actual armor and buffs of the players involved, and the debuffs involved.
I want an actual comparison here, not a cherry picked example.
Paladin Imp LoH is better than Warrior Shield Wall is what i always been telling ,you do ignore that.
Sigh... But it's NOT better. Shield Wall is the ability you want to use to make getting through an enrage phase without risk of tank death. It doesnt matter at all that it only lasts 10 seconds because thats in the majority of cases all you need.
Lay on Hands CANNOT ever be better than Shield Wall when a Warriot tank always have BOTH Lay on Hands and Shield Wall. One class has a 75% damage reduction on top of 30% more armor, while the other doesnt. It's seriously concering that you refuse to even aknowledge this.
The one who insulted right now was you , the one who spout wrong misinformation, lies and contribute nothing right now is you.
You bring no evidence for anything you say = no sources, no videos , no screenshots = wrong information spouting using words and only words.
Therefore you are asking for Censoring those who provide evidence which is opposite of your personal believes .
I have brought plenty sources and I have provided good and thorough reasoning for my arguments throughout this entire thread. What you are doing is deliberately spreading information that has already been proven incorrect. Please dont sit here and deny that.
The reason I would like to see you banned, is at some point debating with someone who is deliberately misleading everyone and refusing to read a single source being given to them that disprove their claims is futile. Ultimately the responsibility to make sure good and factual information gets through fall on the people in charge of moderating the arena where the information is being posted. Failure to do so, is to be complicit in the spread of false and incorrect information that is ultimately to the detriment of the classic community.
It's unfortunately not up to me.
Because you repeatedly refuse to aknowledge that you are incorrect in most of what you are saying, and because you have shown no will to meet anyone on a middle ground while being incredibly hostile and rude to anyone that disagree with you in spite of them providing sources for their claims or pointing out the huge glaring flaws with your own reasoning, there's simply no solution left in my eyes but to remove the person that have seemingly infinite time to spread misinformation from the arena of discussion.
Sorry if this seems harsh, but you brought it on yourself.
If that was true you would be posting one of the screenshots. Instead you are only posting a screenshot of the actual screenshot folder itself. It's safe to assume you did NOT play at level 60 during Vanilla. You can EASILY prove me wrong by actually posting a screenshot of you during Vanilla at level 60 playing a Protection Paladin. Why dont you?
You can assume whatever you want, i provided you unedited footage from my old PC with unmodified screenshots created during 2005 and 2006 period.
You still continue to cherry pick more and more... Despite the fact that you never gave any evidence for any of your claims , neither we have seen any evidence that YOU have ever played Vanilla WoW during 2005/2006.
And i wont bother switching parts from my Old PC to the new one only for your wishes , there is no point proving you something that i proven you already for over hundreds of times .
Especially that you personally ignore the evidence given , by searching for new excuses cherry picking more and more all the time!
. But let's actually use our brains for a second here. If mobs in a dungeon hit for 200 damage, it stands to reason that you can buff this damage a lot more before it starts to become a problem than you can buff raid content where mobs hit for 3000 damage.
. When the mobs hit for 3000 damage instead of 300, then having Defensive stance means the 10% damage reduction will count for a lot more against a raidboss than it will in a dungeon.
See, you base your personal experience based on Private Servers , therefore you talk how mobs in Raid hit for 3000 damage.
Despite the fact that you were proven wrong , you still continue ignoring the evidence !
I don't know for how many times i have to repeatedly provide the very same evidence in order for you to stop cherry picking and accept that you are wrong!
Ill try again .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84OwHLAuQzc
Originally Video recorded from 2006
MC mobs does 400 damage (far from your 3000 damage raid content mobs) , BWL mobs does 800 damage (far from your 3000 damage raid content mobs). AQ20 mobs does 485 damage (far from your 3000 damage raid content mobs) .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXJNCdIJ6dI
koranuso
Published on Jul 12, 2006
Naxx mobs hit him for 300-400 damage (far from your 3000 damage raid content mobs).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfT2HSHRO_Y
Tactless15
Published on Oct 8, 2006
ZG Raid Boss hit for 800-1000 damage (far from your 3000 damage raid content mobs "vs boss i linked") .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Je2USKK2qhs
Irochi
Published on Dec 23, 2006
AQ20 Raid Boss hit for 1000 damage (far from your 3000 damage raid content mobs) .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpQwYIr1wFY
Javier2K2
Published on Sep 25, 2006
AQ40 Raid Boss hit for 882 damage (far from your 3000 damage raid content mobs "vs boss").
Sigh... But it's NOT better. Shield Wall is the ability you want to use to make getting through an enrage phase without risk of tank death. It doesnt matter at all that it only lasts 10 seconds because thats in the majority of cases all you need.
10 seconds versus 2 minutes ... Sure , 2 minutes is full duration of smooth and easy kill , while 10 seconds will never Guarantee you surviving the enrage duration!
Lay on Hands CANNOT ever be better than Shield Wall when a Warriot tank always have BOTH Lay on Hands and Shield Wall. One class has a 75% damage reduction on top of 30% more armor, while the other doesnt. It's seriously concering that you refuse to even aknowledge this.
We talk about Lay on Hand versus Shield Wall and Lay on Hand is better def cd , not who can use both or not .
Shield wall is only few seconds ,doesn't save you from dying after effect and it is selfish only.
Lay on Hand improved is 2 minutes mitigation + Extra Aggro when healed + Full HP healed + regenerating mana if you have lesser than 20% + can be used on everyone!
Warrior surely can use them both , but i'd rather have an extra 2 minutes on top of the current healers Imp LoH which is going to make much easier for ALL fights and full duration of time , versus few seconds CD which wont guarantee not being dead afterward or wipe!
I have brought plenty sources and I have provided good and thorough reasoning for my arguments throughout this entire thread. What you are doing is deliberately spreading information that has already been proven incorrect. Please dont sit here and deny that.
Yet i have seen 0 sources or evidence given by you personally for your claims, i still offer you to provide anything yet i seen 0 so far.
The reason I would like to see you banned, is at some point debating with someone who is deliberately misleading everyone and refusing to read a single source being given to them that disprove their claims is futile. Ultimately the responsibility to make sure good and factual information gets through fall on the people in charge of moderating the arena where the information is being posted. Failure to do so, is to be complicit in the spread of false and incorrect information that is ultimately to the detriment of the classic community.
It's unfortunately not up to me.
First , i don't care if i am banned or not.
Second , you like to see me banned so you can continue spilling your lies and false information without any opposition or anyone who have different point of view.
Third, you give no insight on Paladins , all you do is denigrating them ,refusing to accept evidence and you cherry pick stuffs in order to confirm your excuses and believes. Preaching how terrible they are etc etc, nothing helpful on top of the claims you bring without any sources or evidence as confirmation for what you say, but you instead all you do is just words and words , nothing else.
Because you repeatedly refuse to aknowledge that you are incorrect in most of what you are saying, and because you have shown no will to meet anyone on a middle ground while being incredibly hostile and rude to anyone that disagree with you in spite of them providing sources for their claims or pointing out the huge glaring flaws with your own reasoning, there's simply no solution left in my eyes but to remove the person that have seemingly infinite time to spread misinformation from the arena of discussion.
Yet you brought 0 evidence or properly shown sources with timeline, data, video and everything that is needed to confirm about something.
Why would i be incorrect on stuffs i already personally experienced on my own for past 13/14 Years?
I even provide stuffs from me personally either, but you keep cherry picking and ignoring living in denial.
What you do is only words and excuses, cherry picking hair within balls all the time with hopes to find something for your lies and claims or you lead to nowhere.
I seen so far only criticism without evidence for your claims who are against real evidence given. That is exactly spilling false information and lies , claiming something without evidence which you do it all the time!
Your Warcraftrealm shows that i began to play Jul 15, 06 , but my screenshots shows that i began to play 15th August 2006.
Translation:
"Warcraftrealms shows that first time someone recorded and uploaded my character was July 15, 06 at level 20."
"My screenshots show that I didn't find the screenshot button until August 15, 2006."
Just helping out with logic.
PS. The same also shows you were level 50 on November 15, 2006 (2 weeks before TBC pre-patch) which proves you are blatantly lying.
But the same page you trying to get it as some sort of source doesn't show me playing in 2005 right?
While the Screenshot i provide shows that i played in August 15, 2005.
"My screenshots show that I didn't find the screenshot button until August 15, 2006."
August 15 2005.
Just fixed your logic filled with lies. Which also confirms that you are blatantly lying.
No wonder and no surprise , this Post coming from person who advocated for Crestfall and was part of Crestfall team , who blatantly lied whole Community for years , keeping them in deception and false illusion of a super duper #1 world best in slot Vanilla WoW server!
https://forum.crestfall.online/index.php?/profile/149-roadblock/
https://www.reddit.com/r/wowservers/comments/7ehdqc/crestfall/
How many people was blatantly lied from Asura,Crogge and their crew together with you ? Thousands perhaps?!
I still keep this Video for you : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OangnMRvVNo
killerduki
Published on Feb 16, 2017
Reminds me of professional lying ended up being drowned as Titanic.
That's even worse.. so you started August 15,2005 and was Level 20 at July 15, 2006?
Almost a full year later?
And that is the Speaking as 12 Years experience Paladin Protection and Retribution , coming from 2005 and 2006 Raiding and good old times.?
Keep digging your hole deeper.
You are not just a liar, you lack the basic ability to make your lies even remotely convincing.
You didn't raid shit in vanilla (maybe your fridge)
If you claim to been a level 60 raider in vanilla and you have screenshots from that period. How hard is it to post a screenshot from one of your raids from 2006?
If you are just going to continue to show a picture of your WoW image folder its very safe to say, you didn't even reach level 60 in vanilla.
If you claim to been a level 60 raider in vanilla and you have screenshots from that period. How hard is it to post a screenshot from one of your raids from 2006?
If you are just going to continue to show a picture of your WoW image folder its very safe to say, you didn't even reach level 60 in vanilla.
I already wrote why , it's not hard , but instead of asking same question which was already asked, you could just scroll up and read what i wrote about it.
If you claim to been a level 60 raider in vanilla and you have screenshots from that period. How hard is it to post a screenshot from one of your raids from 2006?
If you are just going to continue to show a picture of your WoW image folder its very safe to say, you didn't even reach level 60 in vanilla.
I already wrote why , it's not hard , but instead of asking same question which was already asked, you could just scroll up and read what i wrote about it.
Thanks for confirming that you never raided in 2006 vanilla.
If you claim to been a level 60 raider in vanilla and you have screenshots from that period. How hard is it to post a screenshot from one of your raids from 2006?
If you are just going to continue to show a picture of your WoW image folder its very safe to say, you didn't even reach level 60 in vanilla.
I already wrote why , it's not hard , but instead of asking same question which was already asked, you could just scroll up and read what i wrote about it.
Thanks for confirming that you never raided in 2006 vanilla.
What does that answer confirm? You are trolling right now.
If you claim to been a level 60 raider in vanilla and you have screenshots from that period. How hard is it to post a screenshot from one of your raids from 2006?
If you are just going to continue to show a picture of your WoW image folder its very safe to say, you didn't even reach level 60 in vanilla.
I already wrote why , it's not hard , but instead of asking same question which was already asked, you could just scroll up and read what i wrote about it.
Thanks for confirming that you never raided in 2006 vanilla.
What does that answer confirm? You are trolling right now.
Because you are dodging posting picture proof of you actually being level 60 in vanilla. If you were actually level 60 in vanilla, you would post picture of it. You already posted image of your WoW vanilla screenshot folder, so why not share a picture from there?
If you claim to been a level 60 raider in vanilla and you have screenshots from that period. How hard is it to post a screenshot from one of your raids from 2006?
If you are just going to continue to show a picture of your WoW image folder its very safe to say, you didn't even reach level 60 in vanilla.
I already wrote why , it's not hard , but instead of asking same question which was already asked, you could just scroll up and read what i wrote about it.
Thanks for confirming that you never raided in 2006 vanilla.
What does that answer confirm? You are trolling right now.
Because you are dodging posting picture proof of you actually being level 60 in vanilla. If you were actually level 60 in vanilla, you would post picture of it. You already posted image of your WoW vanilla screenshot folder, so why not share a picture from there?
You still ignore and dodge to read what i wrote about it previous page.
If you claim to been a level 60 raider in vanilla and you have screenshots from that period. How hard is it to post a screenshot from one of your raids from 2006?
If you are just going to continue to show a picture of your WoW image folder its very safe to say, you didn't even reach level 60 in vanilla.
I already wrote why , it's not hard , but instead of asking same question which was already asked, you could just scroll up and read what i wrote about it.
Thanks for confirming that you never raided in 2006 vanilla.
What does that answer confirm? You are trolling right now.
Because you are dodging posting picture proof of you actually being level 60 in vanilla. If you were actually level 60 in vanilla, you would post picture of it. You already posted image of your WoW vanilla screenshot folder, so why not share a picture from there?
You still ignore and dodge to read what i wrote about it previous page.
Why are you talking agbout the previous page so much? I already read it and there was no image of you being level 60 there. You have shown 0 evidence of you actually being level 60 in vanilla.
Warcraftrealms says that you were level 50 in Nov 15, 06 and only at Jan 17, 07 were you level 60.
Keep in mind that 2007 was pre patch to TBC, it was not vanilla. Even if you somehow managed to reach level 60 between November 15, 2006 and December 5, 2006, that still doesn't say if you had any raid experience at all in 2006.