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He is not looking for a tank, he is the tank charging the money.

Really? Are you going to pay the healer that keeps you alive to tank? How about the DPS' that are damaging the heck out of the mob while you stand there and try to hold aggro? Here's some advice go run the dungeon alone with your big badder than everyone else tank and see how long you make it without others to help. Bad players are bad players, it happens so just get over it. Maybe you aren't that great either if you have problems holding aggro. Ever think about that?

Really? Are you going to pay the healer that keeps you alive to tank? How about the DPS' that are damaging the heck out of the mob while you stand there and try to hold aggro? Here's some advice go run the dungeon alone with your big badder than everyone else tank and see how long you make it without others to help. Bad players are bad players, it happens so just get over it. Maybe you aren't that great either if you have problems holding aggro. Ever think about that?

I love how incredulous some people get about this concept. If mages can charge for portals, then why can't warriors charge for tanking? They are providing you a service. Blizzard has been paying people to tank random dungeons for like 4 expansions now using the group finder's "vital role" reward system or whatever tf it's called. This may shock you, but a lot of warriors would rather dps than tank. They are giving up some fun to make the dungeon work. I will personally never pay for a tank, but that's my choice. It's the same concept as reserving gear in dungeons. Some people get all bent out of shape over it, but it's a logical way of forming a group. You end up with a group of people that self selected because they don't care about whatever gear you are reserving. They get to run the dungeon, and you get no competition for your loot.

Will charging for tanking probably make it a lot harder for you to find a group? Absolutely. I would laugh my way right on to the next group if anyone tried to charge for a run. But is it morally wrong to charge for providing tanking services? Absolutely not. And Zach, the reason no one is ever going to pay a healer and especially not dps is because you are not providing a service, as there is an effectively infinite supply of dps, because the majority of players find that role more fun. I would be absolutely shocked if you ever found anyone willing to pay for dps. I would not be surprised to see people paying for a tank, because there is and always has been a shortage of tanks. That's the World of Warcraft we play.

Edit: Ya know what? You've inspired me to do a little social experimentation now. I'm going to level my warrior alt enough for Deadmines and WC and see how difficult it is to find a group if I charge for tanking.

If mages can charge for portals, then why can't warriors charge for tanking? They are providing you a service.

That isn't really equivalent.
A mage gets 0 benefit from opening a portal for you unless you pay them.
Tanks may be more in demand than the other roles, but they need to run dungeons just as much as everyone else does.
no one is ever going to pay a healer and especially not dps is because you are not providing a service

There is no logical difference between the "service" a DPS or healer provides and the "service" and tank provides.
The fact that fewer people are willing to tank than DPS or heal doesn't make what they do a service.

There is equivalence there. It's not exactly the same, but at the end of the day, people need portals, and people need tanks. That's what matters, supply and demand. Mages have the only supply of portals. Classes that can tank have the only supply of tanking ability. Again, I'm not going to pay for a tank, but if people can get away with charging to tank then why shouldn't they?

There is a logical difference between the service a dps or healer provide and the service a tank provides. Again, it's supply and demand. There is no demand for dps, because the supply is effectively infinite. No demand = no value. Healers are much more in demand than dps, and if a healer wanted to charge I don't see why they shouldn't, except that the supply to demand ratio for healers is much less drastic than for tanks, so I find it much less likely that players would be willing to pay for a healer.

Bruh all I'm saying is that I wouldn't be surprised if people were able to charge for tanking, and if they can get away with it there is no reason they shouldn't. The fact that the supply of dps is far more than 3x the demand is what makes it effectively infinite, and therefore valueless. As I've been saying the entire thread, I'm not paying for a tank, and I wouldn't recommend it if you are trying to get a quick group, but if you can successfully do it then there is nothing wrong with doing so.

(Im a tank so personally I won't ever have to deal with this) but if I wasn't, or was playing a dps or healer I won't on principle pay someone to play the game.

If my group for some reason pays for a tank he better be a hot shit because if he sucks im blacklisting and will let my guild and friends know about it.

That being said, more power to the individual. You play how ever you want to play regardless of anyones, including myself, opinion on the matter.

As a tank, I just don't want to be known as the price gouging jackass who won't tank unless someone pays him an exorbitant fee. I enjoy tanking.

That being said, I'm 53. I'm not done gearing out. Once I've geared out and I'm looting MC purples, I can see running things like Strat or Scholo for the 25th time getting tiresome. But there's always the whole concept of saying, "I just kinda don't feel like it, sorry."

Basically, if someone offers, I still feel kinda guilty accepting. That's why I could never own a business in real life. I feel bad charging people for something I enjoy doing.

There are various options. Charging is the most straight forward one, but there are other options. As mentioned, you can reserve the first Righteous Orb drop but you can reserve other things as well. If you have mining or herbalism, you can reserve nodes. You can also request that you receive any greens / blues that aren't needed by anyone (rolling need last if nobody else rolls need. Ask before you do this of course!) You can then either DE, AH, or vendor them which should add up over the course of a dungeon run.

Because of the high demand, in addition to the high repair costs, these are very reasonable request to make. Don't be afraid to require some or all of these, you'll find that many people will be very willing to do so, especially after spending 30+ min trying to find a tank. After all, most players run dungeons for 1) experience, 2) upgrades, and 3) quests. There aren't that many that run dungeons with the main focus of making gold.

- Tanking is not a service, its a role. Therefore it shouldn't be paid/charged while leveling / early gearing.
- Fully raid geared tank, tanking a 5-man may charge it, but it is more of a boost than paying for a role.

On the other hand, it is interesting idea how to keep players until the end of the run. When you do MC trash farm early on for rep, or MC pugs you keep players by keeping BoE drops until the end of the raid and roll for them then. Interesting thing to implement would be that tank will keep all BoE drops to himself until the end of the run and roll them off at the end.

If you are boosting others, aka being severely overleveled or overgeared, I would consider paying for it. But if you're of equal level you should just suck it up; if I'm a hunter I don't expect others to pay for my ammo either.

I'm going to level my warrior alt enough for Deadmines and WC and see how difficult it is to find a group if I charge for tanking.

Please post results, I'm genuinely curious :)

Somebody paid me 1G last night after running scarlet monastery like 5 times in a row. I didn't ask for it, I just said I was done for the night and the dude chased me down, tossed me 1G 'for repairs and stuff', and then hearthed out.

I'm still not going to ask for money for tanking going forward.

I’ve had a mage demand money during the dungeon because they kept dying when they opened with Blizzard before the tank even attacked.

Just laugh, write down their name and remove them.

Unless you’re “boosting” people the charge a fee is ridiculous to me.