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Firelord
(@firelord)
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I will personally go with the original UI. I find nothing bad about it, even though I have had my moments of customizing it a lot in the past. The UI works wonders and looks good too, in my opinion. While I am a minimalist in many ways, and I do like the slick appearances these custom made UI's look like today, I think they are too slick, and too minimal.

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Posted : 30/04/2018 6:02 am
(@teebling)
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Do you think WoW: Classic will allow us to customise our interface like in the current version?

Was this even possible back in vanilla days?

I think Classic will run on modern Lua API, modern client, and modern server infrastructure. I don't think they are running anything on old shit, that's why it's gonna take a good amount of time to finish the proyect, they are basically reimplementing Vanilla on a Legion client/server.

Yeah fair enough I take back what I interpreted from the interview - I mean this would be the most sensible way to go about it development-wise after all. Easier to maintain, far more stable and the possibility of building on it further in the future with the likes of a TBC legacy server if there is enough clamour for it :smile:

I will personally go with the original UI. I find nothing bad about it, even though I have had my moments of customizing it a lot in the past. The UI works wonders and looks good too, in my opinion. While I am a minimalist in many ways, and I do like the slick appearances these custom made UI's look like today, I think they are too slick, and too minimal.

Yea there's definitely something to be said about the very slightly rugged look of the default UI. It seems more authentic as opposed to something modern which is sleeked out and minimalist to the max - perhaps modern UIs even clash with the art direction of the game.

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Topic starter Posted : 30/04/2018 8:47 am
Firelord
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Yea there's definitely something to be said about the very slightly rugged look of the default UI. It seems more authentic as opposed to something modern which is sleeked out and minimalist to the max - perhaps modern UIs even clash with the art direction of the game.
I think it's a very robust and good looking UI. While it is indeed from an older era, it was certainly ahead of its time, so I believe at least. I'm quite fond of set UI's, like if I have to grab an exampale, I think Guild Wars 2 has an exceptional good looking UI, art style and whatnot, even if you cannot customise it.

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Posted : 30/04/2018 4:11 pm
(@teebling)
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hey everyone :) im new

to answer OPs question yes UI customisation was around in vanilla - the addons weren't as complex as they are nowadays, but they were still v popular especially for raiders and the like.

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Topic starter Posted : 01/05/2018 2:14 am
(@teebling)
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Do you think WoW: Classic will allow us to customise our interface like in the current version?

Was this even possible back in vanilla days?

I think Classic will run on modern Lua API, modern client, and modern server infrastructure. I don't think they are running anything on old shit, that's why it's gonna take a good amount of time to finish the proyect, they are basically reimplementing Vanilla on a Legion client/server.

This is fab news if true. I just hope they dont get rid of some of the lets say... unintended mechanics that came with vanilla like walljumping and clipping through walls etc when they implement it on new software

[mention]omniGG[/mention] ahhh fresh meat :razz: welcome to the shittest forum in the world friend

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Topic starter Posted : 01/05/2018 9:55 pm
Firelord
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This is fab news if true. I just hope they dont get rid of some of the lets say... unintended mechanics that came with vanilla like walljumping and clipping through walls etc when they implement it on new software

@omniGG ahhh fresh meat :razz: welcome to the shittest forum in the world friend

I think this is the case, and that is why it takes such a long time to get Classic up and running (as well as timing it with their other releases.)

Classic will run smoothly, since it will be on updated infrastructure. We will most likely see Battle.net integration, so that is one change we will see, I believe at least.

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Posted : 02/05/2018 2:24 am
(@anonymous_1607109007)
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since were on topic of UI heres an image from reddit today of the old download client

i even remember that background from windows xp

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Posted : 02/05/2018 5:16 am
(@teebling)
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3.16GB.

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Topic starter Posted : 02/05/2018 5:32 am
(@cuppa)
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I would like the game to have the same UI it had in vanilla, but still allow add-ons for those that want something different. It's not a huge deal if they do include in-game UI customization... but I really hope any changes made to the original game are minimal. Then again, this would be an optional change that wouldn't impact anyone except the individual user, so it would be pretty harmless.

Personally, I enjoy the basic UI, but I have used add-ons for raiding where a custom layout makes a big difference.

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Posted : 02/05/2018 10:20 pm
(@jynirax)
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I'd like to see a few very minor improvements to the UI that take away the need for excessive addons. So long as the changes are cosmetically consistent with how the old UI looked I think there is room for improvement that wouldn't negatively impact the game.

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Posted : 02/05/2018 10:38 pm
(@teebling)
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Hey cuppa and jyn!

In agreement with both here some minor tweaks that follow the same UI design as the original wouldn’t be unwelcome.

That said I’m sure there are some purists out there who will argue that addons back in the day didn’t imrpove QoL that much, and that addons of a modern standard may be ‘diluting’ the challenge of the game. Thoughts on this guys?

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Topic starter Posted : 02/05/2018 10:48 pm
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I think things like having ready access to practical and functional party and raid frames in game would be nice. If you count the mail system as UI that absolutely has nothing to do with difficulty and is merely tedious having to send one item at a time. There's just a lack of crucial information on the default frames that I think should be toggled options in what I hope is a completely new Interface Options Menu. The old menu system is archaic and needs updating to at least something that matches what was available in TBC. No game breaking options but just filling in some gaps the game on launch hadn't filled yet. I also much prefer the character sheet information from TBC as it includes vital statistics like Hit and Crit. These aren't things I would argue passionately for but I would be happy to see them refined to something more functional.

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Posted : 02/05/2018 10:57 pm
Firelord
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Hey cuppa and jyn!

In agreement with both here some minor tweaks that follow the same UI design as the original wouldn’t be unwelcome.

That said I’m sure there are some purists out there who will argue that addons back in the day didn’t imrpove QoL that much, and that addons of a modern standard may be ‘diluting’ the challenge of the game. Thoughts on this guys?

Personally, I think Blizzard should do what they can to create the game as similar to as it was back then. AddOns, however, is an outside source, community made addition which Blizzard don’t have any control over. Yes, they can probably break AddOns, but then the question is what they should break, and if it is okay for them to break it. If they break one, should they break all?

I don’t mind AddOns, and I don’t think there’s anything Blizzard can do about it.

My silly dream scenario? No AddOns. Not because I hate AddOns, but because I think it would be quite hilarious to keep every player on equal playing field.

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Posted : 02/05/2018 11:05 pm
(@cuppa)
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[mention]Finesse[/mention]

Heya! I think it would be interesting to play the game without anyone using add-ons. I agree, some do reduce the challenge of the game to a point, so that might be fun to have everyone playing TRUE vanilla.

The reason I do think they should be available is because Blizzard didn't break them during the original vanilla run, so they became part of the vanilla WoW experience, too. I don't have strong feelings either way though.

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Posted : 02/05/2018 11:28 pm
 slud
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I'm pretty happy with the original UI. So long as I've got my key bindings all set up, then it works just great for me.

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Posted : 22/05/2018 2:21 am
(@anonymous_1607109007)
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Time to necro another thread.
AFAIK blizz and some addon developers tested the API they are using for the new Classic and it would seem that neither current nor the old addons are actually compatible with it. That is to say, depending on just how much different the new API is, many if not all addons will have to be rewritten. That probably means no addons at release and for the weeks to come, unless the open a PTR and something similar that would allow addon devs to adjust their addons / create new ones (which I am even more excited for).

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Posted : 14/03/2019 7:43 am
 Kare
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I always used the default UI in Classic, you don't need a million addons like in retail. Always liked the default UI best aswell, makes it feel like WoW.

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Posted : 14/03/2019 1:05 pm
 jym
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The addon Luna Unit Frames has already updated from 1.12.1 to 1.13 for Classic. It's a very popular addon on private servers so I'm sure UI customisation will be a thing. I'd be really interested in a modern Loot Council addon personally.

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Posted : 14/03/2019 3:54 pm
(@teebling)
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The addon Luna Unit Frames has already updated from 1.12.1 to 1.13 for Classic. It's a very popular addon on private servers so I'm sure UI customisation will be a thing. I'd be really interested in a modern Loot Council addon personally.

Hey that's really interesting - so the developer did this based on the demo client or something?

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Topic starter Posted : 14/03/2019 6:43 pm
(@solveig)
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The addon Luna Unit Frames has already updated from 1.12.1 to 1.13 for Classic. It's a very popular addon on private servers so I'm sure UI customisation will be a thing. I'd be really interested in a modern Loot Council addon personally.

Hey that's really interesting - so the developer did this based on the demo client or something?

May have done a version change and some bug fixes/setup for more modern code. At this point, swapping for the demo code is probably dumb as I suspect they will be developing a new UI API for Classic release. All work done now would probably be lost or time wasted.

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Posted : 14/03/2019 6:48 pm
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